First Class

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Meet a few of the undergrads who claimed their spot among our first class of business major graduates. 

In May, Rice Business welcomed its first 60 undergraduate business majors into the alumni ranks, marking a milestone on the journey that started in 2021 when the business school, under the leadership of Peter Rodriguez, launched the degree. Since then, the major has become one of the fastest-growing at Rice. Here is a brief look at just a few of the talented students who claimed their spot in that first cohort.

Meet the Undergrads

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Speaker of the Class

Ask Abhinav Gorjala’s friends about him, and they’ll tell you about his love of pizza, Whataburger and the Rice Club Basketball team. They might also share the fact he was a big part of McMurtry College (“objectively the best,” he says). And of course, there’s the fact that he was chosen to represent the Class of 2024 as its student speaker at May Commencement.

Gorjala coupled his business degree with a minor in Spanish and Portuguese, setting himself up for the global business world as a private equity analyst with Vista Equity Partners this summer. It’s an ideal position for a student who used his time at Rice to intern as an investment analyst with Rice Management Company. He also served as president and chief investment officer for the Rice Undergraduate Investment Fund and in various roles with Rice Business Society.

Gorjala has an entrepreneurial spirit, so he joined Rice Venture Fund, the university’s first student-run venture fund, with initial fundraising efforts reaching the $300,000 mark.

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Investing the Time

Every Sunday night during his junior and senior years, Austin Cox helped host the Investment Banking Bootcamp for Rice students who are interested in investment banking and other related finance careers. Cox and his fellow bootcamp board members — all founders — would teach younger students what they know and bring alumni back to share their insider knowledge. He hopes the bootcamp continues now that he is working at JP Morgan in Houston.

When the new business major was announced in his first year, Cox was knee-deep in math theory and economics, but the new major appealed to him on a practical level. In business courses, he got to branch beyond theory. In his sophomore year, he joined the first class of undergraduate business majors.

“It was the best decision I ever made,” he says.

Between his roles on the board his junior and senior years, when he was head of finance, and his role with the Rice Undergraduate Investment Fund, where he became a senior analyst, his peers thought Cox made a good decision, too: They nominated him — and a committee ultimately honored him — with The Rise@Rice Sen Social Pioneer Prize, which celebrates a student who embodies the highest standards of leadership, compassion and collaboration within the business school community.

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Change of Course

Marissa Giangiorgi, an active Baker College student and member of the dance team, had a plan: She would attend Rice as a pre-med student and go on to medical school after graduation. As a third-generation Rice student, she was familiar with campus and was especially attracted to its proximity to the health center. She was MCAT-ready, but, she admits, the launch of the business major sent her down a different path.

Many reasons went into Giangiorgi’s decision to switch course, but one of them was her Financial Statement Analysis class. “I love how the numbers tell the story of a business or organization,” she says. “That class solidified for me that I was making the right decision.” Even as a business major, Giangiorgi still kept an eye on the possibility of medical school, but as she started the job hunt, she told herself that if she found a job that excited her more than medical school, she would jump ship. That chance came when GE Healthcare’s Financial Management Development Program offered her a spot, and Giangiorgi abandoned the idea of medical school and enrolled. Today, she is working through the program exploring several tracks in the business of healthcare, including finance, controllership and supply chain management.

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The Next Big Thing

As a business student, Jeremy Ghatan approached his professor in Advanced Strategic Management and asked for the harshest feedback the faculty member could muster. Ghatan consistently put himself out there: for example, when he took Leadership and Teams (he didn’t feel like much of a leader at the time) or when he reached out to James Hurley, Rice’s associate vice pesident of advancement, and asked for speaking opportunities. Next thing he knew, he was introducing President Reginald DesRoches at alumni events. As a student, Ghatan wanted to take advantage of the opportunities in front of him, including the chance to study abroad at the London School of Economics his junior year, even working part time the previous summer as a tour liaison with the Chelsea Football Club. His ultimate goal? The soft skills these experiences would give him. “Anyone can learn how to balance a budget sheet,” says Ghatan. “But it’s just as important to be able to communicate.”

Today Ghatan is a strategy analyst with AT&T after serving as an intern for the company his senior year.

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On the Go

As Jordan Billups geared up to graduate with the first class of business majors at Rice, she was offered the opportunity to work in a 20-month rotational management program with Pon Holdings North America. Her first stop: indiGO Auto Group, a luxury car company that supports 12 brands, including Porsche, McLaren and Aston Martin.

Now, Billups will be the first to tell you that she’s “not a car person,” but she is excited about the work she’ll be doing at indiGO, exploring concepts for a loyalty program. Car person or not, the role is a great fit for Billups, who, prior to declaring the business major, had been studying cognitive psychology at Rice. Many of these customers, she says, have been thinking about this car purchase since they were children collecting calendars from the local dealership. “I love to think about what makes people work,” she says, “and why they think what they think.”

At Rice, Billups was a part of Women in Finance and Investing and Women in Business. She did two rotational internships, studied abroad in London, and participated in a Rotational Program Day with the Career Development Office, traveling to four Houston companies.

Those experiences were important for Billups, but so were the lessons from faculty. “The faculty offer so much beyond teaching,” says Billups. “They also share what they have learned in their careers — and help us think through what’s possible for us.”

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A New Tune

When Dallas native April Chung visited Rice University in 2020, she immediately felt at home. A dedicated violinist, Chung planned to pursue a degree in violin performance at the Shepherd School of Music until Rice Business announced the inception of its undergraduate business degree. Though she had applied for business programs at numerous other universities, fate led her to Rice with a violin and plans that would quickly change. During the first year of the undergraduate program, Chung joined the business program. Making the decision to continue playing the violin, she embarked on a new path that would eventually lead to consulting. During her time in the undergraduate business program, she found comfort in seeing familiar faces in each of her classes and working directly with faculty. From working in the Lilie Lab alongside senior lecturer Hesam Panahi to attending panels courtesy of Natalia Piqueira, assistant clinical professor of finance, Chung is grateful for the mentors who helped her learn and grow during her undergraduate experience. Though her degree plan changed in that first year, Chung never put down the violin. She performed in the Campanile Orchestra during most of her time at Rice and continues to play in her spare time.

Chung, who now works at BCG as a consultant, has remained in Houston. “My community in Houston would not exist if I had not gone to Rice,” she says, “and I am very grateful for that.” Chung shared fond memories of O-Week advising, Beer Bike and days in the Lilie Lab. “I think Rice does a great job at fostering school spirit,” she says. Currently, Chung is entertaining ideas of continuing her education in business but is keeping an open mind to what the world around her offers.

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Building the Future

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In May, Rice broke ground for a new building next to McNair to accommodate the school’s growth.

In May, Rice broke ground for a new building adjacent to McNair Hall. The goal? To support a business school that has grown exponentially — in students, staff, programs and reputation — since it first became a reality 50 years ago.

Rice Business first got its start in 1974 with funds from Houston Endowment to support business education in the city and surrounding areas. When the first full class of students matriculated in 1977, 55 came on board to take advantage of the two degrees the school offered at the time: management and accounting. Over the last five decades, the school grew, so much so that it continuously moved buildings to accommodate the increasing student and faculty populations. In recent years, Rice Business has doubled the number of MBA students and seen a 41 percent increase in tenured and tenure-track faculty.

Rice Business has called McNair Hall home since 2002. But come 2026, there will be an additional building to support those growing numbers, which today includes more than 2,000 students across 11 degrees, one of which is the new undergraduate program that’s quickly becoming one of the most popular majors at Rice.

But our student and faculty populations aren’t the only things to have grown over our 50 years. So have our business plan competitions, including the Veterans Business Battle, the Napier Rice Launch Challenge and the Rice Business Plan Competition, the largest and richest student startup competition in the world. We’ve also strengthened our ties with Houston through partnerships across the city and region, and we continue to engage with pressing business issues, from AI implementation to the future of energy.

This new building will allow Rice Business to forge an impressive future, support our faculty and students, and prepare the next generation of leaders to tackle some of the biggest challenges of our time.

Have a look at our new building — and the future of Rice Business.

 

A conversation with Stephen Cassell, principal at Architecture Research Office, the building’s lead design firm

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Stephen Cassell

As you thought about the design of the new building, what were some of the concepts and ideas you considered?
Based on conversations with school and university leadership, we wanted to create a space that really matches how business education is evolving. In addition to traditional classrooms and meeting rooms, we made sure there are lots of different types of spaces — informal spots where students can hang out, brainstorm and network. The idea is to make a space that supports learning and effortless teaching, of course. But we also want the building to contribute to Rice’s unique campus vibe.

Speaking of campus vibe, how will the design fit in with the rest of the university?
That was a big focus for us. We wanted the new building to feel like a natural extension of Rice. And because it will be integrated with McNair Hall, we are making sure the two buildings complement one another. We’re adding new entrances and a central courtyard to make it easier to get around and help people feel connected. Of course, we kept that beautiful brickwork from other buildings. It’s all about blending the new with the old in a seamless way.

You’ve talked about creating spaces that feel “effortless to teach in.” Can you elaborate?
We spent a lot of time meeting with professors to understand their needs and teaching styles. For instance, some professors use two screens while others prefer one, so we’ve ensured the classrooms can accommodate different technological setups. We’ve also paid attention to the layout of rooms, designing some that allow students to wrap around the professor for better eye contact and engagement. In other rooms, we’ve made sure tables can be easily moved for breakout sessions and then brought back together for group discussions. We’ve also included a variety of room sizes and styles to support different teaching methods, from intimate seminar rooms to larger lecture halls. The goal is to create spaces where professors can teach without environmental limitations.

How does the new building anticipate and accommodate potential changes in business education over the coming years?
We recognize that business education is evolving rapidly, with more emphasis on experiential learning, entrepreneurship and interdisciplinary collaboration. This is another benefit of those informal, flexible spaces I mentioned that can be adapted for different uses as needs change. For example, we’ve included more gathering areas of various sizes that can be used for group projects, startup pitches or impromptu lectures from visiting executives. We’ve also ensured robust technological infrastructure to support emerging educational technologies. By providing this mix of formal and informal, traditional and innovative spaces, we’re giving the school the flexibility to evolve its curriculum and teaching methods without physical constraint.

The Places We've Called Home

Sewall Hall
1977—1978
Student population: 55
Faculty population: 7
Programs offered: 2

Herman Brown Hall
1978—1984
Graduates in 1984: 31
Faculty population: 54
Programs offered: 3

Herring Hall
1984—2002
Graduates in 2002: 147
Faculty population: 45
Programs offered: 5

McNair Hall
2002—Present
Graduates in 2024, including the first class of undergraduates: 515
Faculty population 2024: 95
Programs offered: 11

New Building 2026
Student population: 1,500+
Faculty population: 100+
Programs offered: 11

 

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As we continue to celebrate 50 years of Rice Business, we offer a roundup of 50 things that make us fabulous.

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Adam Bauchsbaum, Maureen Harmon and Scott Pett

A collection of things that make us fabulous — in no particular order.
We had to whittle this list down to 50 — and it goes without saying that we love our faculty, staff, students and alumni — but there are so many more things to love about Rice Business. Have a favorite you want to share? Share your memories: maureen.harmon@rice.edu
 

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Used to Be Small, Now We’re Mighty

When Rice Business got its start, it was in Sewall Hall with just a few classes and a few students. Through the years, Rice Business has had homes in Sewall, Herman Brown, Herring and now McNair. In 2026, business students will gain another home — and another 112,000 square feet, as a new building opens next to McNair.

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P-Rod

If you know Rice Business, you know P-Rod. Dean Peter Rodriguez, who goes by the nickname on his social channels and among students, isn’t always all business. His expertise in running and growing the school is well known, but so is his on-campus humor, his approachability among students and his dance moves at Partio.

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Global Views

Don’t get us wrong, we love Rice’s campus, but we also want to see the world. The Global Field Experience allows students to tackle real-world business challenges in emerging markets like Argentina, Brazil, and Colombia. Throughout a semester-long course and during these weeklong immersions, Rice Business students get unmatched professional experience, and businesses get innovative solutions. Bonus: Students also get to enjoy the rich culture and diverse landscapes of these distant locations. 

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Vikas Mittal’s shoes

For Professor Vikas Mittal, personal expression all comes down to the sneakers. A pretty traditional dresser from the ankles up, Mittal is so well known for his creative expression through brands like ASICS, HOKA and Saucony that the students in his Executive Forum II course gifted him with three pairs of colorful kicks at the end of the spring 2024 semester. To be fair: Mittal is just one of our many beloved and whip-smart faculty members, a bunch that’s easy to add to a love list.

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Partio

Rumor has it that the term “Partio” originated with a nervous student who fumbled the more formal name, Party on the Patio, when explaining the get-togethers to a tour group. Wherever the term comes from, everyone now knows that Partio refers to the famous Thursday evening parties featuring food, drink, friends and DJ-ed music. It’s a weekly occurrence with some very cool themes — the Dean’s Partio and Rice Around the World Partio are always crowd favorites.

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That Family Vibe

Houston is big — the country’s fourth-largest city and its most diverse. The city offers endless opportunities, from museums to sports to green spaces, but there’s a unique comfort in being part of a close-knit community on a campus tucked inside the hedges.

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OwlBowl

Each year, students across Houston leave the classroom for the field to compete in the OwlBowl, which brings together students from MBA programs throughout the area for a little friendly competition. Hosted by the Rice Business Student Association for Professionals, this annual charity flag football game asks that teams raise $500 each, with all the proceeds supporting local charities.

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Campus strolls

The Rice University Outer Loop offers a shady, safe trail encircling campus, perfect for joggers and walkers alike. This dog-friendly path is lined with a beautiful canopy of oak trees and provides great views of Rice’s Mediterranean Revival architecture.

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Cold Beer at Valhalla

At Rice, Valhalla isn’t just a mythical hall for fallen Norse heroes — it’s the go-to spot for graduate students seeking the best cold beer in Houston. For over 40 years, the valiant folks of Valhalla have served Rice’s graduate community with rotating taps of local Texas ale — and plenty of students have had their tie cut when entering Valhalla, a tradition that started with Ph.D. students who lost half their ties after successfully defending their dissertations.

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Access to Information

Nestled on the second floor of McNair Hall, the Business Information Center (lovingly known as the BIC) is more than an oasis for students looking for a quiet place to cram. Named after Gilbert and Ruth Whitaker, this space is a treasure trove of online resources, journals and comfy study nooks. Whether you’re an MBA student diving into market research or an undergraduate trying to escape your roommates’ impromptu karaoke, the BIC’s got your back.

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New Ideas

When the Rice Business Plan Competition, hosted by Rice Alliance, began in 2001, nine teams competed for $10,000 in prize money. Now, 24 years later, 42 international teams vie for over $1 million in cash and prizes each year, making it the largest and richest business plan competition in the world. We’re also home to the Veterans Business Battle and the Napier Rice Launch Challenge — both of which help launch innovative businesses and products that tackle some of the world’s most pressing issues.

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Speaking of Those New Ideas

Our entrepreneurs might get their start in a pitch competition or in our top-ranked entrepreneurship courses, but their businesses span everything from design and culinary ventures to energy transition solutions. Our entrepreneurs aren’t always in it for the money, either. Plenty of nonprofit organizations — from the arts to humanitarian aid — were founded by Rice Business graduates.

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Rice and NASA

Rice’s involvement in the space race began almost immediately, partnering with NASA in 1959. This relationship has flourished over the years, marked by key moments like President Kennedy’s iconic speech at Rice Stadium. Our connection is both historic and personal; Rice has produced 16 NASA astronauts and hosts the NASA Ambassador of Exploration Award (posthumously awarded to President Kennedy).

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McNair Public Art

McNair is a destination for any Rice MBA — not only for its innovative classes and stunning architecture, but also for its stellar collection of public art. Since 2008, Rice Public Art has placed artworks across campus that reflect Rice’s global outlook. McNair Hall, for example, features inspiring works by 17 diverse artists who represent various cultures, ages and gender identities.

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The Energy Connection

Located in the heart of the world’s energy capital, Rice Business provides students with access to industry leaders, cutting-edge technology and top-tier faculty expertise, equipping them with the skills needed to lead the future of energy.

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Join the Club

Vino, veterans or venture capital — whatever your interest or group, Rice clubs have students covered. Graduate students can choose from more than 30 clubs, and our undergraduates can choose from more than 300, some of which offer opportunities to develop leadership and networking skills.

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Our Open Door Policy

The proud doors of McNair Hall stand open (always, except in inclement weather), welcoming visitors, students and faculty alike. Flanked by the iconic bear and bull statues, these ornate doors tell the story of the graduate school’s namesake, Jesse H. Jones, through intricate bronze carvings.

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Our Undergrads

After welcoming graduate students for 50 years, Rice Business recognized the community’s need and desire for an undergraduate business major and launched one in 2021. This past May, we celebrated our first class of undergrads (new grads: welcome to the alumni ranks!), and the young major is already the second-most popular major at Rice.

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Our Graduate Students

From MBAs to PhDs, our graduate students embody excellence. We’re proud of our Master of Accounting students — the school’s trailblazing program that returned to campus after a 20-year hiatus — and are thrilled to see our PhDs extending Rice’s impact as they secure positions at prestigious universities worldwide.

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Turrell Skyspace

“The Twilight Epiphany” Skyspace, located in the middle of campus, offers stunning light shows at dusk and dawn, as well as musical performances in the remarkable acoustic space. The light-and-space masterpiece by James Turrell has been a go-to spot since 2012.

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Metal and Muscle

Professor Brian Akins is well-known for his finance expertise, but students also recall his love for heavy metal and weightlifting. After transitioning to teaching a second-year elective, Akins ditched the formal attire and started sporting Slayer and Meshuggah T-shirts in class. One highlight? Maxing out deadlifts with former student (and now alum) Jimmy Vu ’16.

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The Wisdom

Rice Business Wisdom has been bringing the latest business thinking to life since 2016. Delivering engaging, smart and authentic insights from the best business faculty research, RBW blends scholarly rigor with actionable insights, making complex ideas understandable and impactful.

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Rice Sports

Rice students might compete against one another in flag football or intramurals, but everyone unites when the Owls hit the field. Our students love to show their school pride during any sporting event, but the energy is its highest when playing against our neighboring rivals: the UH Cougars. And with professional teams in almost every major sport, Houston is a competition hot spot.

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“Firewater” Tradition

From 2007 to 2019, Professor Haiyang Li led Rice MBA students on annual trips to China, where they were introduced to Baijiu, the country’s beloved “white liquor.” Baijiu became a memorable part of these trips. Professor Li even brought a bottle back to campus for a celebration event.

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Launch

Launch is more than just an orientation — it marks the start of the Rice Business journey, no matter which program you choose. Students meet classmates, attend core classes and connect with the faculty who will guide them through the program.

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Student-Organized Conferences

Rice Business students don’t just attend conferences — they lead them. Between the Women in Leadership Conference (WILC), Rice Energy Finance Summit (REFS) and the Rice Cleantech Innovation Competition, our student-organized events draw hundreds of attendees each year.

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Anderson Family Commons (AFC)

We truly embrace the “family” aspect of the AFC, an event space on the first floor of McNair. Named in honor of the Anderson Family, the AFC is the perfect gathering spot for weekly lunch colloquiums for full-time students, evening family meals for EMBAs, and events like Reunion, guest speakers and our annual staff awards ceremony.

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Gibbs Convocation Hall

It’s not quite Hogwarts, but the Gibbs Convocation Hall has the charm of an esteemed, prestigious library that rivals those in movie sets. Nestled on the second floor of McNair, Gibbs offers a quiet space for students and faculty to study or engage in conversation, accompanied by the soft strains of music.

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Rice Alliance

The Rice Alliance for Technology and Entrepreneurship, now housed at the Ion, is more than a launchpad for startups — it’s the heartbeat of Houston’s innovation ecosystem. Established to fuel the growth of tech companies and commercialize groundbreaking ideas, Rice Alliance, which hosts the Rice Business Plan Competition, has gained national recognition in the world of entrepreneurship.

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Getting Fancy

We all love a lavish event. Each program has its own end-of-year event hosted by the Full-Time Rice Business Student Association and the Professional Rice Business Student Association. The MBAs, for example, enjoy a spring gala, an annual formal gathering held at incredible venues in Houston each spring. From a Bridgerton Masquerade in the Ballroom of Bayou Place to a Night at the Museum of Natural Science, the event is a highlight of the Rice Business experience.

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The Experience

You might have known it as the Student Programming Office. These days we call it the Office of Academic Programs and Student Experiences (APSE). While the name has changed, the mission remains: help every student reach their potential. APSE provides numerous educational opportunities, pushing our MBAs to new heights through international initiatives, dynamic cocurricular activities and student advising.

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Audrey's

What word beginning with “c” do you think is mentioned most often at Rice Business? Capital? Consumer? Corporate? The answer is CAFFEINE. Named in honor of Audrey Moody Ley ’35, Audrey’s café has stood as a beacon for students or faculty in need of a midday pickup. The coffee hot spot is currently closed while we undergo construction, but not to worry: Audrey’s will reopen with the new building in 2026.

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On-Campus Learning

Who says online learning can’t be hands-on? Our Intensive Learning Experiences (ILEs) bring the Hybrid MBA and MBA@Rice communities to campus for weekends of high-impact learning. While earning core credits, our students forge lasting connections with peers, faculty and industry leaders. It’s the perfect blend of flexibility and face-to-face collaboration. But they’re not only for our online learners: we also host ILEs for our full-time, executive, and professional students.

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Stephen Zeff

“Dedication” might be just one word to most, but at Rice it’s two: Stephen Zeff. With a career spanning decades, Professor Zeff exemplifies what it means to be an educator. He has taught at dozens of institutions across the globe, authored or edited 32 books, published over 150 articles in accounting, and received countless awards.

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Follies

Look, we’re a very serious institution of higher education. But we still know how to have fun, and we don’t take ourselves too seriously. Every year, Full-Time MBA students come together for the Follies, a light-hearted celebration of their MBA journey. It’s a chance to playfully tease faculty members and poke fun at our communications team for their frequent social media requests, capturing the authentic Rice Business experience and giving everyone a good laugh.

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Healthy Living

While our students’ professional growth is important to us, their personal well-being is always our top priority. The Barbara and David Gibbs Recreation and Wellness Center — with its two pools (one for just chilling in the Houston heat), 11 fitness and wellness programs, over 30 annual outdoor trips and 9,000-square-foot gym — offers opportunities for rest and rejuvenation just a short walk from the classroom.

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Owl Have You Know

Business isn’t a linear path; it’s full of ups and downs, trials and triumphs, setbacks and comebacks, all leading toward success. Rice recognizes the value of these stories and the inspiration they offer. “Owl Have You Know” is our award-winning podcast where alumni, faculty, students and other community members share their remarkable journeys.

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The ROI

While we cherish our time with students, we know it isn’t forever. Our Career Development Office (CDO) partners with students and alumni, working to ensure they launch their own meaningful careers and connections. Rice is proud that our MBAs accept job offers at companies like Chevron, Barclays, Morgan Stanley, Deloitte and the MD Anderson Cancer Center, and our Ph.D.s are placed at top research universities across the country.

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Owlympics

Whether you’re competing in events like a bubble soccer tournament and a crawfish boil or cheering from the sidelines, the Owlympics are the perfect excuse to battle it out with faculty and students. The best part: the creative, coordinated team uniforms.

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Like your degree? How about two?

In 1999, the business school partnered with Baylor College of Medicine to offer a dual MD/MBA degree to develop administrative leaders to tackle critical issues in health care like rising costs, access, affordability and organizational inefficiencies. We did the same with Rice’s Wiess School of Natural Sciences to create the MBA/PSM (Professional Science Master’s program), empowering business leaders to address challenges in the space industry and the sciences.

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Flexibility

The world of business is evolving, and we’re keeping up with the trends — including the growing overlap between work and life. That’s why Rice Business created flexible programs to support students as they balance careers, families, school and passions. Both the Hybrid MBA, which blends remote and in-person learning, and the Online MBA, recently ranked a Top 5 program by The Princeton Review, give students the flexibility they need.

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Rice Business Magazine

Allow us to toot our own horn for a moment: Rice Business magazine (called The Jones Journal prior to its big makeover in 2016) is your biannual link to our community, offering a lively mix of student news, alumni stories, entrepreneurial advice and the latest insights from our faculty’s research.

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Liu Idea Lab (Lilie)

The Liu Idea Lab for Innovation and Entrepreneurship, created in 2015 with a generous gift from Houston entrepreneur and alumnus Frank Liu and his family, is more than just a lab — it’s Rice’s hub for experiential learning and innovation. Through hands-on programs and real-world challenges, students from all disciplines develop the entrepreneurial mindset needed to launch tech startups and drive innovation in global firms.

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Shell Auditorium

When you need a stage to share big ideas, Shell Auditorium in McNair is the place to be. The state-of-the-art venue, complete with tiered, theater-style seating for over 400 guests, is the perfect space for conferences, “last lectures” and business plan competitions.

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Pretty Pics

Arching oaks and striking columns are just a few of the elements that make Rice’s campus one of Houston’s most beautiful spots, with plenty of Insta-worthy areas to capture photos. Case in point: the famed RICE sculpture outside Lovett Hall, allowing students and visitors to take their place as the “I” in Rice — once again proving that you belong here. The iconic quad also recently reopened after the treasured four-acre space was reimagined from a walk-through area to one that is designed for activities, encouraging connection, reflection and personal growth.

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Alumni and Reunions

Our alumni are not only well connected; they’re also a lot of fun. Annual reunions are a great chance for faculty and staff to catch up with alumni who bring energy, creativity and a spirit of camaraderie wherever they go. Can’t make it to Houston? Rice Business has regional chapters for our alumni that host social events, lectures from visiting faculty members and plenty of shared stories.

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Schooling for Executives

Our Executive Education program is Rice’s home for executive and organizational leadership solutions with an array of programs suited to the C-suite. In 2023, more than 1,000 leaders, including 420 women, from more than 240 firms took advantage of our programs to better their business and leadership skills.

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Road Trips

Imagine stepping out of the classroom and into a Fortune 500 company headquarters, meeting Austin’s tech giants, or experiencing Wall Street or Seattle firsthand. Welcome to Career Treks — a unique opportunity for all Rice MBA students to explore company culture, gain industry insights and connect with companies and the powerful Rice Business alumni network.

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Barb's Funky Houston Tour

In 2021, Barbara Bennett, then the senior associate dean for degree programs, floated the idea of creating a Houston tour for incoming Full-Time MBA international students. The tour focused on showcasing the local and funky sides of the city — its hidden treasures — and included The Beer Can House, The Orange Show Center for Visionary Art, Smither Park, The Moody Center for the Arts and the Turrell Skyspace. Bennett acted as tour guide between stops, highlighting spots like the American Statesmanship Park, the murals in downtown Houston and other attractions.

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Our Home: Houston

As one of the most cosmopolitan cities in America, Houston celebrates its multicultural roots with festivals, cultural centers and a diverse culinary scene, allowing students to explore the world without having to book a flight. Houston is home to the Texas Medical Center, the world’s largest med center; very cool areas like the Theater District, the Museum District, Hermann Park, Memorial Park and the Houston Arboretum; and events like the Art Car Parade, an annual tradition in which thousands line the streets to admire quirky contraptions driven by passionate artists. We also have the Ion District, 12 blocks full of energy and innovation, where startups, tech wonks and creative minds hang out and bounce ideas off each other. Plus, Rice’s innovation factory, the Rice Nexus, is set to be the heart of Houston’s next big chapter at the Ion. Whether visiting NASA; cheering on the Astros, Texans or Rockets; or donning a cowboy hat at the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo, Rice students develop a deep appreciation for Houston and a habit of saying “y’all.”

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PREVIOUS CAREER AND CURRENT INTERNSHIP

Previous position before MBA:

  • Title: Product Manager
  • Company: Cenit Logística y Transporte de Hidrocarburos 
  • Location: Bogota and D.C., Colombia

Summer Internship: 

  • Title: Summer Associate Consultant
  • Company: Kearney
  • Location: Dallas, TX
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Diana Carrillo Romero, Full-Time MBA Student

HOW DID YOU SECURE YOUR INTERNSHIP?

I secured my internship at Kearney by actively networking with industry professionals and alumni, thoroughly researching the company, and preparing a tailored application that highlighted my relevant skills and experiences. I practiced case studies and behavioral interview questions for a couple of months, demonstrating my analytical abilities and cultural fit during the interview process. My proactive approach and being myself during the process make me a strong but genuine candidate. 

WHAT WERE YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES DURING THE INTERNSHIP?

As a summer associate consultant, I'm working with a global consumer packaged goods (CPG) client on a network optimization project.

WHAT DEPARTMENT WAS YOUR INTERNSHIP WITH?

My internship is with the Strategy Consulting department. 

HOW DID YOUR MBA COURSEWORK PREPARE YOU FOR THIS INTERNSHIP?

Courses in strategic management and data analytics provided me with good foundations in analyzing complex business problems and developing strategic solutions. The finance and operations management courses enhanced my understanding of key business functions and metrics and supply chain concepts, which was crucial for the network optimization project I worked on. Additionally, the teamwork, leadership and communication skills gained through group projects and case studies improved my ability to collaborate effectively and lead initiatives.

HOW DOES THE INTERNSHIP ALIGN WITH YOUR CAREER GOALS?

The internship aligns perfectly with my career goals. Over the next five years, I aim to lead solutions for complex problems and develop my leadership skills by managing and guiding teams.

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Diana Carrillo Romero, Full-Time MBA Student, alongside Fellow Kearney Interns

HOW DO YOU THINK THE INTERNSHIP WILL HELP YOU WITH YOUR MBA STUDIES OR FUTURE CAREER?

The internship at Kearney will provide real-world hands-on experience, directly complementing my MBA studies. By applying classroom theories to actual business challenges, I'll gain practical insights and a deeper understanding of the matter. Additionally, working on complex projects and engaging with industry professionals will polish my analytical and leadership skills, preparing me for a successful career in consulting and beyond. This experience will also help me build a robust professional network.

WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE PART OF YOUR INTERNSHIP EXPERIENCE?

The fast-paced environment and tremendous growth opportunities in a short time have been incredibly rewarding. Additionally, interacting with senior leaders in the industry and working alongside brilliant and kind colleagues has been a delightful experience.

WHAT ADVICE DO YOU HAVE FOR PROSPECTIVE STUDENTS?

Be curious and keep your options open from the start. Leverage your communication skills, as these soft skills can distinguish a good candidate from an exceptional one.


Diana Carrillo Romero is a Full-Time MBA student in the Class of 2025.

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By leveraging sales, coupons and bulk purchases, many households can achieve returns that match or even surpass traditional investments.

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“The items that you have in your fridge or in your pantry can be a significant form of wealth that is not captured in widely used measures,” Johnson says.

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  • Household goods are an overlooked form of wealth, especially for low-income households.
  • Having cash on hand allows households to seize discount opportunities, making stockpiling a practical and nearly risk-free investment strategy.

As anyone who has visited a Walmart Supercenter during a Black Friday sale can tell you, just about everyone loves a deal. Those carts stacked with discounted cleaning supplies and bulk toilet paper are more than just obstacles in a crowded parking lot. Stockpiling household goods is a strategy that shoppers can use to keep their overall spending low. 

For households that stock up on goods at the right price, the gains can add up quickly. Recent research by Stephanie Johnson, Rice Business assistant professor of finance, shows that sales, coupons and bulk purchases allow households to achieve returns exceeding 30%. These benefits are substantial enough to encourage people to keep more liquid assets, like cash, on hand to take advantage of discount opportunities as they come up.

On average, households hold about $725 of consumer goods. For low-income households, these goods make up a large part of their wealth.

“A large number of American households have very limited financial assets, but all households have at least some consumer goods,” says Johnson. “You can stock up on things like dry grocery and frozen items, cleaning products or canned food and to a lesser extent, yogurt, cheese or eggs. The items that you have in your fridge or in your pantry can be a significant form of wealth that is not captured in widely used measures.”

Traditionally, wealth is calculated by adding up the total value of assets such as real estate, savings and equities like stocks. But that calculation fails to capture what’s in a household’s cupboards. For those in the lowest quintile of annual household income — less than $22,000 per year — these goods are a significant form of wealth and likely the most effective way for them to generate returns with their money.

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“When households take less frequent shopping trips but buy more on each trip, they can save in two ways,” says Johnson. “Because they are making fewer trips, their travel costs and cost of time are lower, and because they are buying goods in bulk their cost per unit is lower too.”

But for certain products, bulk pack sizes may be best suited to people who consume a lot of that thing, such as large families. For most people, a gallon of pasta sauce will spoil long before it has been fully consumed.

“In contrast, if you buy many smaller bottles of pasta sauce when they are on sale, you can get similar savings, but you also get more flexibility in how they are consumed.”

Strategic shopping offers significant returns. While these returns are similar across income levels, the benefits are greatest for the lowest-income households because household goods make up a larger portion of their overall assets. However, to buy large packs or capitalize on temporary deals, you need to have the necessary working capital — such as cash or cash equivalents like lines of credit. 

Johnson likens the savings achieved from strategic shopping behavior to the interest earned in a savings account, but at an average of 54% for the typical working capital investment, the returns far outpace any interest you could earn. The amount is also far higher than the average annual returns of 8% achieved by the S&P 500, a stock market index that tracks five hundred of the largest companies in the United States.

These returns motivate households to keep extra cash on hand, beyond what they might need for emergencies. This could help explain why some people choose not to invest in the stock market. For those with only a few hundred dollars, investing in household goods may make more sense than investing in stocks. While stock market investments always carry inherent risks, the returns from buying discounted products are known at the time of purchase and are nearly guaranteed. However, unlike a savings account, the returns decline with the amount invested.

“Returns are ultimately limited by how much households actually consume,” Johnson says. “Keeping some extra cash available as working capital can be a rational choice for many households. This allows them to take advantage of deals or buy their favorite products in bulk. What’s important to understand is these physical goods are also a form of wealth. Even if they cannot easily be resold, households can reduce spending in times of financial distress by drawing from their stockpile.”

 

Baker, et al. “Financial returns to household inventory management.” Journal of Financial Economics 151, Article 103758 (2024): https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jfineco.2023.103758.


 

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  • [00:00]Maya: Welcome to Owl Have You Know, a podcast from Rice Business. This episode is part of our Pivot Series, where guests share stories of transformation in their lives and careers.

    On today's episode of Owl Have You Know, we catch up with a Full-Time MBA who embraces change as a way of life. Pooja Talreja traveled from the opposite side of the globe for an education. Her journey to find true fulfillment in her career led her to Rice, which changed the trajectory of her life.

    She talks with us about her upbringing, her career pivot, and how the gift of mentorship has shaped her, and how now she is able to pay it forward.

    Welcome to Owl Have You Know. I'm your host, Maya Pomroy. Pooja, thank you for being on the program today.

    [00:47]Pooja: Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here.

    [00:49]Maya: We are very excited as well. So, you are the senior vice president of people at Ironclad Environmental Solutions. You've got 15 years of experience, guiding global teams across the oil and gas industry. And currently, you've pivoted from an accounting background to HR. So, we're going to get into that. You also grew up in Dubai and decided to come to the States for your education. So, tell me about what your childhood was like in Dubai.

    [01:24]Pooja: Born and raised there, Dubai, I don't know if you know this, has a very big Indian community. So, it was home away from home. Summers were in India with grandparents. Growing up was with an Indian community, English speaking, so the move to the U.S. wasn't that tough. I would call it a very sheltered upbringing, to be honest.

    [01:44]Maya: Could you describe that? Because I've never been to Dubai. I mean, it's on my list, but I've never been. So, curious about your thoughts on that.

    [01:52]Pooja: Middle class families in Dubai can afford a nanny. That's something that is unheard of here. We grew up with a live-in nanny. Both my parents worked and we were lower to middle class, right? So, when I say sheltered, we had an excellent support system at home with family, with friends, strong sense of community. Moving to the U.S. was actually the hardest thing I've done because it's leaving that community behind and then building your life from the ground up. And frankly, as a mom, I want that for my kids.

    [02:25]Maya: Sure.

    [02:25]Pooja: As hard as it is to let your kids go fly, it's what helped me learn so much about myself. It's just… it was an amazing experience.

    [02:34]Maya: So, what are some of the things that you've learned?

    [02:38]Pooja: Oh, my gosh. I used to think of myself as a very shy person. Confidence was always an issue, growing up. But moving here, I learned that, when put in a tough situation, I'm going to try and figure it out, right? I'm a figure-it-outer. I just like to get shit done.

    [02:56]Maya: Problem solver.

    [02:57]Pooja: Problem solver. That, I didn't know I had it in me till I was put in this situation to do that. And I think that goes for a lot of women, in general. I don't think we give ourselves enough credit. We don't always come into situations with full confidence. But the more we have that experience of, “I got this,” that builds competence, right? And that builds your confidence, in turn.

    [03:20]Maya: Let's talk about that, of being a woman, growing up in Dubai, and then coming to the United States. Culturally, from India to Dubai is a shift, but I think from India to Dubai to the U.S. is even a greater shift.

    [03:37]Pooja: I'll never forget that plane ride. I cried myself to sleep. I was by myself.

    [03:42]Maya: How old were you?

    [03:45]Pooja: 20? It was in the middle of college because I transferred schools from Dubai to Florida. But I didn't think I was going to cry. I thought I was ready to be on my own.

    [03:57]Maya: And you went to Florida Atlantic University. That's where you got your BBA in accounting.

    [03:59]Pooja: That's where I got my bachelor's in accounting. And even though I had a couple of friends that were from Dubai that were at FAU, leaving your family and friends behind, and I'd been in Dubai my whole life, it just taught me resilience. It taught me grit. It taught me, even though I may, in the moment, think I don't have it, I can do it.

    [04:20]Maya: So, you got off the plane. Did you just go to the dorm? How did that go?

    [04:26]Pooja: So, I had a girlfriend that had an off-campus apartment. I just met her. She walked me around the school. I hadn't even toured the university, but I just applied and I transferred. So, it was my first time visiting. And again, right, very similar to growing up in Dubai, FAU has a really small Indian community. So, I don't know what it is. We just tend to gravitate towards each other.

    [04:51]Maya: I think that's normal of everybody. We try to unlearn that, but I think that's just a natural instinct.

    [04:57]Pooja: So true. Like minds and everything, right? But yeah, once I got over the fact that, “Hey, I'm here,” I have nobody to fall back on, my support system looks nothing like what it did back home, it was go-time.

    [05:10]Maya: What made you want to come to the States?

    [05:12]Pooja: Education, opportunity. And I will say, today, the opportunities in Dubai are very different for women. Growing up, there was one university. It was very new when I was ready to go to college. So, I had friends around me that were either moving back home to India or they were going to different schools in Europe or they were coming to the United States. Honestly, I liked what the U.S. offered in terms of opportunity, right? The sky's the limit. And at the time, I just thought, “I'm gonna go give it a shot.”

    [05:43]Maya: Love that. That's true for so many that come to the U.S. for their education.

    [05:50]Pooja: I drank the Kool-Aid, and here I am, my gosh, 24 years later.

    [05:54]Maya: You know, that's also something to celebrate, 24 years. So, what made you interested in accounting? Was that something that was a family background? Were your parents in accounting? Or is that just something that, you know, you loved math and you gravitated towards?

    [06:09]Pooja: It was my parents saying, “Accounting will give you stability in your career. So, go do that, or some sort of engineering degree or some kind of doctor,” which I sucked at science. Numbers came easily, so I picked that, right? There's a big difference in studying accounting and working in accounting, night and day.

    [06:31]Maya: What's the difference?

    [06:33]Pooja: The work, at least when I worked for CPA firms, was very redundant, right? It was the same work, checking other people's numbers, ticking and tying. Honestly, for me, it didn't offer the variety that now I know that HR does. Every day looks very different in HR. For accounting, it's predictable, right? You know what the day is going to bring, which wasn't for me. That just was not my calling.

    [07:00]Maya: Yeah. Once you graduated with your BBA in accounting and you dipped your toe into the accounting sea, how long did it take you to realize that, “Maybe this is not really what I want to do with the rest of my life and it's time for me to shift?”

    [07:18]Pooja: I would say three to four years. I mean, I knew initially, but I kept thinking it's going to get better, right?

    [07:26]Maya: Don't we all?

    [07:27]Pooja: It's not them. It's me. I'm good at this. Well, why can't I love it? In my mind, I couldn't make that distinction between having the skills and the ability, but also not having the passion for it, right?

    [07:42]Maya: Yeah.

    [07:42]Pooja: So, I actually quit my job at the public accounting firm that I was at. It's a local firm here in Houston. Literally, weeks after they promoted me.

    [07:54]Maya: How’d that go?

    [07:55]Pooja: You know, I will never forget the day – I walk into the partner's office and I said, “You have no idea how much I appreciate you taking a chance on me. You're giving me a larger role, a bigger responsibility, but I hate the job.”

    [08:08]Maya: Oh, did you do that? Did you say, “I hate my job?”

    [08:10]Pooja: I did. And, you know, he was… he's such an amazing person. He was open, always, to have that dialogue. And I think they saw, right, that I wasn't loving the work. So, I just told him, I said, “Look, I want to go back to school. I don't know what I will do with my life when I'm grown up, but it's not accounting, right? Being in your seat, bringing in business, it's all about the numbers just was not for me.” And honestly, he got it. He was supportive, right? Did they try and throw more money at me? Yes, but I think the person in him got that I was looking for something entirely different.

    [08:45]Maya: Right. So, what year was this?

    [08:48]Pooja: Oh, my gosh. 2006 was when I applied to Rice. So, it had to have been 2006, actually, because it was earlier that year and I applied in the same year, so ‘06.

    [08:58]Maya: So, why did you decide… was it location, because you were in Houston? Is that why you applied to Rice Business?

    [09:04]Pooja: Yep, it was the only school that I applied to. And I had friends that had either graduated from Rice or were still going there. So, there was, you know, an existing community, and they just spoke so highly of the program and everything that it exposed them to and everything that they learned, the professors, their cohorts. I just knew intuitively that this needs to be my next move.

    [09:28]Maya: So, walk me through when you came on campus and you came to the business school for the first time. What did you think?

    [09:35]Pooja: The imposter syndrome is so real, right? Like, how am I here? And the campus is so beautiful. And you have all of these extremely intelligent people. Frankly, I just remember feeling very grateful, right? Looking back at the decision to even move to the U.S. and complete my degree here and then having the courage to quit a very stable job, right, as they wanted to move me up, I was like, “Yeah, no thanks,” right? That just…

    [10:08]Maya: Thanks, but no.

    [10:09]Pooja: Thanks, but I need to try something for me. And frankly, having a spouse that was like, “Yeah, go back to school, quit your job,” not everybody has that, right? So, it was not lost on me that I was in a position of being set up for success and it was up to me to take that and make the best of it. But the early days were extremely intimidating. They have you present right off the bat, week one, orientation, and they record you, which is painful to see yourself in that recording. You're like, “I don't sound like me. I don't look like me. This is not okay.”

    And then, of course, there was the whole airplane game. I don't know if y'all did that, but it was part of our initiation, which we didn't know at the time. But it's a game that's set up to essentially rag on us, right, just to make fun. And we took it very seriously, as first-years, that we need to win this game. It's an all day thing.

    [11:07]Maya: No, we didn't play this game.

    [11:09]Pooja: Oh, my god.

    [11:10]Maya: I'm, kind of, disappointed. You have to tell me about the airplane game.

    [11:12]Pooja: So, I don't remember exactly everything we did, but it's many series of games. You're set up in teams with your other first year cohorts. And the goal is to win every game, right? And then whoever wins the most gets the most points. Little did we know that it was… some of it was, like, childish, almost. Building an airplane, how far does it go? And we would get very technical with it, right? Like, put our engineering brains that I didn't even have. How do we do this? We just thought it was part of our success at school, which, no, no, it was all planned by second-years who were watching the fun at our expense. But then, you know, we got to... so, year two, we were like airplane game, let's make this happen.

    [11:54]Maya: So, who won?

    [11:56]Pooja: There is no winning, that's the whole thing. That was the whole thing. You're thinking, “Oh, my god, I'm in business school. It's all about winning.” No, that was the thing.

    [12:05]Maya: It's all about losing. It's all about failing. That's a thread that goes through a lot of conversations, you know, with MBAs that I've had, is that you've got to learn how to fail because you can't succeed until you learn how to fail. Looking back, the amount of growth, I mean, it's been a little while since you graduated, but the amount of growth that you have in such a short period of time is really extraordinary.

    [12:26]Pooja: It's remarkable. I remember telling my husband, “You need to enroll, you need to apply, you need to do this because this is game-changing stuff.” I was just so excited for the duration of those two years, you know. And you build lifelong friendships, including the networking with the professors and the Partios, all of it, right?

    [12:49]Maya: Yes.

    [12:49]Pooja: I look back at it, and I would do it again in a heartbeat.

    [12:52]Maya: I told my husband the same thing. I was like, “You should really do this.” And he was like, “I'm not smart like you,” like, “Okay.”

    [13:00]Pooja: It's funny how people think going back to school you have to be smart. For me, it's the love of learning, right? For me, it's learning about yourself, the education, the exposure to so many different courses and see what sticks. That was what it was about.

    [13:14]Maya: And about taking a risk. Just the same way that you got on that airplane, you know, you got on that airplane, you took a risk, you came here. So, was it while you were at Rice that HR spoke to you, or people, the idea of inspiring and leading people?

    [13:31]Pooja: 100%. It was one of the early classes, Organizational Behavior, with Professor Brent Smith. I went to him and I said, “How do I do this? I need to do these things we're learning in these case studies with Southwest and everything that you talk about, motivating people, leading people, but impacting the business through that.” And it was very simple, what he said, “Have you considered HR?” And I said, “No, I always thought my next move would be adjacent to accounting like finance or, maybe, something in operations. HR was not even on my radar.”

    And that's why Brent, and Rice, overall, was such a big part of where I landed with my career because it taught me that you can be good at something and so find your calling. I didn't know that the two existed together.

    [14:20]Maya: Well, that's what they say. They say, when you find something that you love to do, then it's not work.

    [14:26]Pooja: Yep.

    [14:26]Maya: And that's what I think the Holy Grail is, is to find what it is that you love to do that just comes so naturally to you, that you're like, “Wait a second, this is my job? Like, this is the best thing ever. How'd that happen?” And it takes people a little bit of time to get there.

    [14:41]Pooja: For me, I was in my 30s, right? Friends around me were having kids, and here I was, back to school and so happy just to do it.

    [14:51]Maya: So, Brent Smith was a very integral part of your transition. Have you talked to him since? Do you guys keep in touch?

    [14:59]Pooja: We did, for a long time. I'll say, in the last three to four years, I will take full responsibility for the fact that I haven't really reached out to him.

    [15:09]Maya: Well, you've been busy. You've had things to do.

    [15:13]Pooja: Just a little. But I did. I had frequent lunches with him. I would talk to him about anything and everything. I've even been into, like, some of his classes because, you know, we can audit, right? In fact, I really want to do that again. It's just the coolest thing to be able to sit in there and hear the conversations that are happening, the things that he teaches. You always pick up on something new, no matter how many times you've been there. And he does these amazing leadership courses that…

    [15:39]Maya: Executive leadership.

    [15:41]Pooja: That's my calling. Like, that's going to be my next step.

    [15:44]Maya: Well, you're going to have to, like, carve out that time because we don't ever have any sort of time that's just, like, sitting around. You know, it always, sort of, gets filled up with something. Always gets filled up.

    [15:53]Pooja: You have to make the time. Well, I did just graduate, actually, a couple of weeks back, I was in the Wharton's program for CHRO.

    [16:00]Maya: Oh, congratulations!

    [16:02]Pooja: Thank you. So, that has taken 12 months. It was a great program, but yes, I'm going back to Rice, for sure.

    [16:08]Maya: Well, see, that's the whole thing, is that lifelong learning, as you mentioned, is key. And I'm actually auditing a class in the fall at Rice as well.

    [16:15]Pooja: Which one?

    [16:17]Maya: Portfolio management. And I had been thinking about it and thinking about it. And finally, I was like, “You know.” And it was… it's really funny because, you know, you graduate, you know, with an Executive MBA. And then I will tell you that, writing the email to the professor and asking, because you have to ask for permission, and I was so nervous. And my husband was like, “Why are you so scared of this?” I was like, “Well, what if he says no?”

    [16:41]Pooja: Yep. I've been there.

    [16:42]Maya: What if he says, I was like, “Why, why on earth?” But that's still something that you struggle with. And I'm like, “All right, I'm going to do this.” And I pushed that. And, of course, he was kindest and was like, “Absolutely looking forward to seeing you in class.” So, I'm auditing a class in the fall. And there's so many benefits to being a part of Rice and that opportunity to always be welcome to come back, and if you see that you have some gaps, or even if you want to pivot and you've already gone through the program, you have this opportunity to continue to grow and learn. And one of the things that I'm most looking forward to is, obviously, the lecture, but also, learning from the students that I'm going to be within that same room because you learn so much from each other.

    [17:26]Pooja: I couldn't agree more. I could not agree more. I think that's why cohorts tend to become so close, right? The professor is teaching you so many different things, but to your point, there's equal amount of learning from the people that's sitting in that class and their experiences and failures and all of that. It's just an overall fantastic experience. And I miss it. I love being in a classroom.

    [17:49]Maya: Yeah, that's something that you want to pass down to your kids and future generations. And I think that Rice is a place that you, kind of, never really want to leave.

    [18:00]Pooja: I agree. I'm right there with you.

    [18:04]Maya: So, tell me about your current position and your current role, because you went from leading the HR division to leading all of HR for the entire company. So, tell me what you're doing now.

    [18:19]Pooja: So, let me, before I go into that, rewind three and a half years. I'd started the division HR leader with a company called WillScot Mobile Mini, publicly traded, WillScot had just acquired Mobile Mini. And as part of the interview, the head of the division had said to me, “Hey, it's very likely that, in a year or two, we're going to get sold.” He was very honest about it. “Could mean you're either going to have to go look for something else or you could be leading the department.”

    [18:47]Maya: Those are very wide.

    [18:49]Pooja: Extreme, very extreme options. And at the time, my other option was to go work for a hospital system, more stable, one of the biggest hospital systems here. And I picked this one. I think the pattern with my life is I always pick the riskier one, the riskier move.

    [19:07]Maya: Love that.

    [19:08]Pooja: Honestly, for me, it was about the people, too, right? I just felt like, “Go big or go home,” in a way. But also, I love the group of individuals and leaders that had interviewed me. We just got on right off the bat. So, a year and a half into that position, my CEO, now CEO, at the time, division lead calls me and says, “Okay, it's time. We're going to start presenting to different strategic companies and PE firms. It's time to sell.” Because he had gotten us to that point with Scot Mobile Mini. And so, as a division leadership team, we would go to the same conference room in Bank of America, every morning with the same breakfast, same people, same presentation. Eventually, we were bought by Kinderhook. That's the New York-based private equity firm that currently owns us.

    And each of the division heads essentially got promoted, right, into being now VPs and leaders of our own departments. And we all had to build a function from scratch. And this was in October of ‘22. Since then, we've had two acquisitions. I can't even tell you how many reorganizations, restructuring, people that have left the organization, both voluntarily, involuntarily, new additions. Change is the only constant, right? That's been the journey. I say this: we are living and writing our case study every day.

    [20:34]Maya: Huh! How do you get through that? I mean, yes, uncertainty is the only certainty in life, right? How do you figure out a way to stick to it?

    [20:46]Pooja: For me, it was a lot to do with the people that I was doing this with. After every single presentation, we would go back to the hotel, hop on our computers, do what we needed to do from a day job perspective. And at dinner, I would constantly say this, as much work as this is, and it's going to be even more, if there's one set of people that I want to do it with, it's this group right here. We had this sense of camaraderie that was built, let's say, over the last couple of years, right, that just became stronger because we were spending so much time with each other. And it's beyond transition. I would say what we're going through now is transformation. And with transformation comes significant change.

    I just feel like the learning is what keeps me going. It always has been my biggest driver. And I haven't stopped learning, not in any job. And when I did, I decided to pivot from accounting to HR because it was the same thing and I didn't feel like there was enough learning and growing. But that's what kept me going.

    [21:52]Maya: Do you feel that learning and growing is one of the most important things in terms of being a strong leader?

    [21:58]Pooja: One of, yes, absolutely.

    [22:02]Maya: What are the others?

    [22:06]Pooja: There’s so many, but I'll give you my favorites. For me, it's compassion. The way that I define HR is not your textbook HR. Really, I think of it as a Venn diagram. You've got your policies and compliance and legal things, but then you've got the other side, which is doing what's right for the people.

    And when you can find what can work for both, that's where HR comes in. That's where the magic happens. That's how you build the right level of engagement and loyalty and motivate people, is when you find doing what's right for the people, but doing it in a way that's still ethical within your policy, within the laws and regulations. So, that's what I love about my job, is figuring out that sweet spot.

    [22:47]Maya: What are the most challenging parts about your job?

    [22:51]Pooja: The change. There's days, Maya, that you just take it as a gut punch, right? People, it's been a bit of a revolving door. And you need that, right? Some of the change is very healthy, you need it. But at a personal level, it can wear you down, 100%.

    Also, the uncertainty. As much as I enjoy the change and the learning, it also brings with it a level of, “I don't know what's next.” And that can be scary, not knowing what tomorrow brings.

    [23:23]Maya: But that got boring for you with accounting.

    [23:25]Pooja: Exactly. So, this is the other extreme now, right? This is just the other extreme of it.

    [23:30]Maya: Certainly.

    [23:30]Pooja: You know, if you're not feeling that discomfort, also, you're not growing. And I say this to my kids all the time. You know that feeling that you have, like, “Oh, my God, I hate this so much,” it's because you're growing your muscles or you're building some sort of muscles along the way. And I recognize that that's what's causing the pain, is, “Oh, my god, I really don't know anything about this particular topic. I'm just going to have to lean in and dig in and learn it.”

    [23:55]Maya: Yes. I tell my kids that, too, is, when you're stuck in that mud, you know that you’re going to get through that mud. And yeah, the mud is really, really hard to get through, but you have to. You've got to get through the mud in order to get to the other side of, you know, the beautiful, green valley. You know, it's what you got to do. And it's really hard to see, especially for kids, I think, to see the other side. And that's why it's really important to model that behavior for them.

    [24:27]Pooja: There's a lot to be said for learning from failures, even more so than your successes.

    [24:32]Maya: Yeah. So, what's next for you guys over there?

    [24:36]Pooja: So, 2023 was all about acquisitions, right? Divested in October ’22. We bought a couple different companies last year. This year is all about becoming more stable as an organization. We've recently gone through a really big rework. And the idea there is to strengthen all of the corporate functions, strengthen our processes, strengthen the tools, the systems we have in place, strengthen our performance overall. And the goal is, of course, with any PE firm, to grow that bottom line and then to sell, right? So, that's going to be what's next in terms of the company.

    [25:14]Maya: So, once that happens, because, yes, that's the natural progression, what are your hopes for yourself?

    [25:21]Pooja: If I had a magic wand, I would do this all over again. Knowing what I know now, when you do a bit of a look-back, there's so many mistakes and there's so many good calls, too, on the other side of it. I could do this all over again and I would kill to do it all over again and again and again. I know, glutton for punishment, let's call it.

    But professionally, it's been a really rewarding, I would say, last couple of years. It really puts you to the test when you're faced with so much uncertainty and, kind of, thrown in the fire a little bit, right?

    [25:57]Maya: Yeah. Well, let’s talk about leadership a little bit because that's Professor Smith, you know, that's what he's known to be, best of the best, right? And organizational change and leadership and those sorts of things. So, what is your approach to coaching leaders?

    [26:14]Pooja: So, to start with, I would say it's really important just to be true to yourself. Be authentic. Be who you are. Have extreme clarity in what you're saying and where you want to get to. Because if you're not clear, your team's not going to be clear. And then lead by example, show people what good looks like, and do it with compassion, empathy. But also, holding people to the right standards and to the highest standards, because you’re… I do the same for me. I do the same for my people. Accountability is extremely important. Do what you say, right?

    I always feel like it's not rocket science. None of what I said is new. It's not profound. It's just, it's what you learn, I think. With your education and experience combined, you, kind of, carve out what works for you. And everything that I just described is, I would call that my own leadership style. Very vulnerable. I'm no different at work than I am at home. What you see is what you get. There's very little filters.

    Also, very honest, right? If I bungled something, I will tell the team, “That was on me. I totally screwed that up. Let's move forward. Here's what I'm thinking in terms of damage control.” But the reverse is also true. If somebody screws something up, it's, “Hey, let's talk about it. What can we avoid… do to avoid it from happening again? And what can I do to support that next go-around so that the same failure or mistake doesn't happen again?”

    [27:42]Maya: Right. So, if somebody is listening to this and they're where you were not that long ago and just don't feel that fire or that drive and are like, “You know, this is comfortable, but I'm just not sure,” what advice would you give them?

    [28:00]Pooja: The advice I would give them is the advice that a really, really close friend to me gave me very recently. He had said, it's not about mental fortitude. I was like, “What?” He said, be your own best friend and give yourself advice, be kind to yourself, have self-love, and figure out what you want to do, which is very hard to do because you're so close to your own situation. So, it's hard to have that.

    [28:29]Maya: Take a step back.

    [28:30]Pooja: Take a step back and have that other mindset. But once you do that, it's amazing, the courage that you can build along the way.

    [28:38]Maya: So, have the courage to step outside of that comfort zone. Love that.

    [28:43]Pooja: It's never going to be the right time. You know, you said that earlier, like, just lean in. So, yeah, that's something, looking back, that I'm glad I did.

    [28:52]Maya: For sure. If you don't take the risk, you don't get the reward.

    [28:56]Pooja: Yep. And it may not always be the right call, and that's okay, right? Bumps and bruises and everything, learn from it, but move forward.

    [29:05]Maya: It's helpful for folks to listen to these stories, because they're all so unique and similar in terms of just really having the faith and the drive and the vulnerability. Like you said, nobody likes to listen to themselves and nobody likes to see themselves. And yeah, those things are hard to do for me as well. But those are… that's how you stretch and that's how you grow. And that's what life is all about.

    [29:33]Pooja: Yep, 100% agree.

    [29:35]Maya: Well, Pooja, it's been a pleasure. Thank you for being on Owl Have You Know, and we look forward to seeing what the future holds for you.

    [29:43]Pooja: Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it.

    [29:47]Maya: Thanks for listening. This has been Owl Have You Know, a production of Rice Business. You can find more information about our guests, hosts, and announcements on our website, business.rice.edu. Please subscribe and leave a rating wherever you find your favorite podcasts. We'd love to hear what you think. The hosts of Owl Have You Know are myself, Maya Pomroy, and Scott Gale.

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Having a tech background, I always wanted to continue in this industry. AI being the talk of the town, I wanted to get firsthand experience with that, and this internship has allowed me to do so. I will be completing my MBA with specializations in marketing and strategy. This internship allowed me to work in a strategy role that will add to my technical career. 

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