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The Right Moves at the Right Time

During her Rice Business Ph.D. (Accounting ’26), Marcela Aguilar built a generative AI mentor called Mia that gives microentrepreneurs what big companies take for granted: a thinking partner for every business decision.
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During her Rice Business Ph.D. (Accounting ’26), Marcela Aguilar built a generative AI mentor called Mia that gives microentrepreneurs what big companies take for granted: a thinking partner for every business decision.

This story is part of our special anniversary issue of Rice Business Wisdom on artificial intelligence.
There’s a farmer in Honduras who can’t sleep. He has newborn piglets, and he’s trying to decide when the best time to sell them would be. A week? A month? A year? The animals will grow in size and value over time, of course. But they need to be fed and cared for, and the risk of unforeseen complications will rise. A buyer may offer less than he expects. The pigs may get sick. He lies awake with the dilemma: How long should he wait? How much uncertainty can he afford? 

For microentrepreneurs like this farmer, every decision is a question of making the right move at the right time. He may never have used words like liquidity, margins, cash flow or risk tolerance, but he’s weighing all of them. He knows his animals, his buyers, his costs. And he reads them the same way all business owners do, with a restricted view of the future and under the everyday pressures of making a living. 

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What he doesn’t have is something larger businesses take for granted — someone to help him strategize. He doesn’t need to be coached on raising livestock or connecting with buyers. He needs someone to think through the timing with him, weigh his assumptions and surface any concerns he might have missed. 

Marcela Aguilar (Ph.D. ’26) is testing whether that someone could be an AI chatbot. As part of her doctoral research in accounting at Rice Business, she built Mia (short for mentora con inteligencia artificial), a generative AI mentor that operates through WhatsApp, a platform already familiar to microentrepreneurs across Latin America. The goal: to make business guidance more accessible to people on their farms or in their shops, or wherever they’re deciding the next move. 

The Professor’s Gambit 

Long before accounting gave Aguilar a field of study, chess gave her a way to think. She started playing at 13 — late by competitive standards — as a student in El Salvador who struggled with math. She quickly became obsessed with the game, sitting at the board after school “like from 2 p.m. to 8 p.m. every day,” she says.

On weekends she played tournaments where a single game could stretch to five hours. By 18, she had become El Salvador’s national chess champion. 

As she got better at chess, she got better at math. And math, she points out, is the base of economics, of econometrics — of everything that she would build in the years to come. “Chess helps you with logic, with considering options,” Aguilar says. “You’re always thinking: What else? What’s an alternative way to solve this? You have to be ready for the next move, to plan ahead. I think every school should teach chess.” 

That analytical habit of mind — being able to hold several futures at once, weighing what each choice sets in motion — carried her from economics to public policy as a Chevening Scholar at the University of York, into the vast world of Central America’s microenterprises, and eventually to a Ph.D. at Rice. 

 

“Chess helps you with logic, with considering options,” Aguilar says. “You’re always thinking: What else? What’s an alternative way to solve this? You have to be ready for the next move, to plan ahead. I think every school should teach chess.” 

 

Years ago, while working at the International Labour Organization (ILO), Aguilar partnered with the chambers of commerce across Central America to understand the region’s informal economy — the ecosystem of tiny, often family-run retailers, manufacturers, street vendors, farmers and service providers that operate outside government records. The scale of that world is easy to underestimate. According to a 2025 report from the International Finance Corporation, micro, small and medium enterprises (MSMEs) make up roughly 90% of all businesses worldwide, employing more than 70% of workers and generating half of global GDP. Aguilar’s job was to help such businesses grow and become more productive, to the point where formalizing with the government could become a beneficial option, opening pathways to credit and further growth. She had no immediate plans to pursue a Ph.D., much less one in accounting. 

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But then her friend Daniela De la Parra (Ph.D. ’21) — herself a former chess champion in Mexico — put Aguilar in touch with K. Ramesh, Rice Business’ Herbert S. Autrey Professor of Accounting and a 2026 recipient of the school’s Ph.D. Student Mentoring Award. At the time, Professor Ramesh was directing De la Parra’s dissertation. (She’s now an assistant professor of accounting at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill’s Kenan-Flagler Business School.) 

Ramesh and Aguilar connected over Zoom. The conversation stretched to 45 minutes, Ramesh generating idea after idea about the questions accounting research could help Aguilar ask of informal economies around the world: How do entrepreneurs who have never seen a financial statement understand their costs, margins and profits? Why do so many run entirely on cash flow? It occurred to Aguilar that she had been engaging in accounting research all along. By the end of the call, Ramesh was urging her to apply to Rice’s Ph.D. program, with only days until the deadline. His energy and enthusiasm for her interests helped her decide. It was the only doctoral program she applied to.

Developing the Pieces

A strong research Ph.D. program is less about learning to answer hard questions than to discover new ones. The right question will reveal what a field has been missing and open new territory that other scholars can then explore. “We’re developing scholars who can identify a rich research question,” Ramesh says, “and who can position themselves to study it and understand the dozens of steps that it will take to do so. When that works, the whole field inherits new questions to pursue. And over time, the findings make their way into organizations and society.” 

Aguilar’s experience shows how that works in practice. She began with a question broad enough to hold an entire career: What role does accounting play in the informal economy? (It’s also the title of a paper forthcoming in the Journal of Accounting and Economics she’s co-authored with Ramesh and Gary Lind, Ph.D. ’19.) And inside that question she found a sharper one: Could an AI mentor put practical business knowledge in the hands of the world’s smallest enterprises? 

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To answer this, she would need to accumulate tools outside the standard accounting curriculum. “The main challenge is the lack of data — and that’s the exciting part as well,” Aguilar says. “These businesses are informal; the government has no record of them. If you want to understand them, you have to go to the field and collect the data yourself.” 

Field experiments, which randomize real people into groups in real-world settings so that outcomes can be traced to causes, remain uncommon in accounting research, and rarer still in developing economies. So Aguilar built her training to match. On top of the Rice accounting program’s core in econometrics, statistics and causal analysis, she supplemented with courses in mathematics, statistics and economics. And when what she needed wasn’t at Rice, Ramesh pointed her outward to a field-experiment summer school at Michigan State University and to another led in part by John List, the University of Chicago economist widely regarded as the most influential field experimentalist working today. Along the way, she connected with other accounting scholars who are running field experiments around the world. 

From there, it took nearly two years to turn Aguilar’s question into a working experiment: a memorandum of understanding between Rice and the ILO; university research approvals; a preregistered analysis plan filed before the first results came in; and near-daily calls with the local chamber of commerce. Only then could the real work begin of finding out what happens when microenterprise owners start chatting with a trained gen AI mentor.

 

Like other generative AI tools, Mia is meant to support human judgment, not replace it. “At the end of the day, it has to be the entrepreneur making the decisions,” she says.

 

A Strategy for Scale

Aguilar’s experiment with her WhatsApp LLM Mia unfolded in Tegucigalpa, Honduras, the country’s capital and largest city. Local microentrepreneurs — mostly women, many around age 50 and more than half with less than a secondary education — were randomly assigned to one of three groups. Randomizing the groups meant they looked alike, on average, in terms of education, experience, business category, etc. “It’s something really simple, but it changes everything,” Aguilar says. “Then you can talk about causality, not just correlation.”

All three groups were given the same ILO business curriculum. What varied was the teacher. Group 1 met with a human trainer in a classroom, the way the local chamber of commerce had taught for years. Group 2 got a version of Aguilar’s Mia that taught the same ILO material in a traditional way of siloing topics: a unit on marketing, another on accounting, etc. Group 3 got a version of Mia that treated accounting as the language of business — a thread that integrates into every decision microentrepreneurs make about pricing, suppliers, discounts, timing and beyond. 

Participants could send questions to Mia as voice notes and photos, and Mia could answer with voice notes back. “A lot of people said it felt like a friend,” Aguilar says. “Someone they could just talk to easily.” With in-person trainings, she notes, social pressure can keep people from asking questions. Someone who never finished primary school might sit next to someone with a master’s degree, and in that context might hesitate to ask questions out of fear of seeming uneducated. But with Mia, every question gets a judgment-free answer. 

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The study allowed Aguilar to test two comparisons at once: AI-based versus human-led training; and accounting woven into business decisions versus taught as a stand-alone subject. (The experiment did not measure changes in sales or profits, outcomes that can be difficult to measure over such a limited period.) 

The entrepreneurs took to Mia quickly. According to Chicago Booth Review, which reported on Aguilar’s research in April 2026, 173 business owners sent Mia more than 30,000 text messages, some 3,000 voice notes and 1,500 images over the month the program ran — asking questions about pricing, inventory, customers and costs at whatever hour they arose. 

The first finding? Microentrepreneurs who trained with Mia performed about as well as those taught by a human trainer at roughly 3% of the cost. While it’s true that chatbots cannot replicate the virtues of in-person training — relationship building, organic storytelling, lesson sharing — AI training holds its quality at scale in a way that armies of human trainers cannot. According to a 2020 report by the World Bank Group, governments and NGOs spend more than $1 billion annually training 4 million to 5 million potential and existing entrepreneurs in developing countries. 

The second finding mattered even more to Aguilar. Most entrepreneurs don’t come looking to learn accounting, Aguilar notes. They want marketing and sales. But Group 3, which used the version of Mia that integrated accounting into every decision, outperformed both other groups. These entrepreneurs generated 78% more conversations combining financial reasoning with other areas of their businesses, such as marketing and strategy. They also were significantly more likely to articulate concrete, growth-oriented plans. “It’s like when we’re in school and someone is teaching us math, and we don’t know how to apply it,” she says. “But if you teach mathematics for making decisions, in your specific context — how many piglets you have multiplied by how much feed you’ll need over such and such a period — you transfer that knowledge from the classroom to the real world.” 

 

While it’s true that chatbots cannot replicate the virtues of in-person training — relationship building, organic storytelling, lesson sharing — AI training holds its quality at scale in a way that armies of human trainers cannot.

 

The results have outlived the study. Aguilar says about 30% of the participating businesses have since begun to formalize by registering with the government — a first step toward bank credit, legal protection and growth. And the chamber of commerce in Tegucigalpa, convinced by what it saw, kept Mia on as a regular service for its microentrepreneurs. 

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Marcela Aguilar

In the academic world, Aguilar’s studies have also gained notice. This past year, she had the rare distinction of having research presented and discussed at the two most prestigious accounting conferences in the same academic year — the Ray Ball Journal of Accounting Research Conference and the Journal of Accounting and Economics Conference. In 2025, Aguilar and Ramesh also hosted the first conference on the role of accounting in microenterprises, where Aguilar presented her findings on Mia. It was attended by leading scholars from the U.S. and across the globe.

Making the Next Move

Aguilar is already working toward another experimental deployment of Mia in both Honduras and Costa Rica, testing a hybrid model in which human mentors work alongside the AI. “In the ideal world, you have both working together,” she says. “You have training in a classroom but can ask questions at any moment to the AI. That way you’re not missing out on much-needed human interaction but getting the accessibility of the LLM.” 

She’s clear-eyed about the risks of the technology, especially AI hallucinations and the danger of microbusiness owners trusting the machine too completely. Like other generative AI tools, Mia is meant to support human judgment, not replace it. “At the end of the day, it has to be the entrepreneur making the decisions,” she says. 

But Aguilar also sees why accounting researchers cannot stand aside. AI is not only changing the kinds of questions researchers can ask, but also transforming the evidence they can use to answer them. Her experiment produced thousands of recorded conversations, creating a real-time archive of how microentrepreneurs think, worry and learn. It gives the kind of insight no survey ever fully could. 

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One thing AI has not changed is the reason Aguilar is doing the work she does. “Since I started economics at 18, I always wanted to help make a positive change,” she says. “There are so many things we can do to improve quality of life for people.” For her, that has meant bringing accounting as the language of business closer to the people who could use it to think through what comes next for themselves and their microenterprises. 

This fall, Aguilar happens to be taking her own major next step. Having graduated from Rice, she’s making a move from Houston to Chicago to join the tenure-track faculty at the second-oldest business school in the United States — the University of Chicago Booth School of Business — as an assistant professor of accounting.

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Why Does Studying on Campus Matter for an MBA?

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Considering an MBA? Explore the benefits of studying on campus, from professional networking and career developing to collaborative learning and student life at Rice Business.

Brittany Dean, Assistant Director of Recruiting and Admissions

If you’re researching MBA programs in 2026, you’ll find plenty of options: full-time, in-person programs; part-time formats designed for working professionals; and fully online degrees. Each offers a different approach to balancing graduate education with your personal and professional commitments.

You might also come across satellite programs housed in offices around the city, or you might be considering a remote education due to the fact that employers have become increasingly accepting of online MBA programs. But these formats, while beneficial for some, can pose a significant disadvantage to your MBA experience. Being on a real campus creates opportunities for face-to-face learning, professional connections and community involvement that can be harder to develop remotely.

Recognizing the value of forming in-person connections with faculty and other students, even Rice Business’ Online MBA program requires at least one on-campus immersion. So what does studying on campus add to your MBA experience? Here are five benefits to consider:

Hands-on Learning From Top Faculty With Deep Ties to Houston

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An MBA is an inherently collaborative degree. Students learn from faculty, but they also learn from one another, bringing different professional experiences and perspectives to discussions of complex business challenges. 

In-person classes allow students to ask immediate questions, challenge arguments and learn to communicate ideas in real time. At Rice Business, you’ll study with faculty who are embedded in the community and bring both deep research expertise and real-world experience to the classroom. Our faculty have deep ties to our city, its businesses and our community — they’re not just visiting to lecture over the weekend.

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That collaboration continues outside the classroom. Working face-to-face with your cohort deepens group projects, presentations and case competitions, and it gives you opportunities to practice communicating, negotiation and leading teams. Informal conversations between classes or over coffee with a professor can be just as valuable as scheduled instruction.

These interactions also help develop interpersonal skills that are difficult to practice in isolation, from reading body language and navigating disagreements to presenting ideas persuasively and building your professional presence.

Whether you pursue the Full-Time MBA or one of Rice Business’ Professional MBA formats, the opportunity to learn alongside other professionals adds an important dimension to the academic experience.

Personalized Career Support and Employer Access

An MBA can open new career opportunities, but navigating a career transition or advancing into leadership takes more than classroom knowledge. It also requires guidance, preparation and access to employers.

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At Rice Business, students have direct access to the Career Development Office (CDO), which provides career coaching and resources across programs. Being on campus makes it easier to build relationships with dedicated career advisers, whether you’re looking for help with your resume, preparing for an interview or thinking through your next career move.

Rice MBA students also have opportunities to connect directly with recruiters and hiring organizations. More than 300 employers engage with Rice Business annually through networking events, mock interviews, career fairs and other activities. The CDO also brings successful Rice Business alumni and industry professionals to campus to share their experiences and connect with students exploring different career paths. The fall Industry Weeks series, for example, gives students opportunities to hear from employers across energy, healthcare, technology and real estate.

For students considering a career change, these conversations can provide a clearer picture of an industry and connections that may prove valuable during a job search.

Professional Networking That Lasts Beyond Graduation

Some of the most valuable professional relationships develop gradually and organically, through repeated interactions and shared experiences. Between classes, student events, panel discussions, conferences and competitions, you’ll regularly encounter classmates, alumni, faculty and business leaders. 

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Your classmates, in particular, become an important part of your professional network. They bring experience from different industries and functions, and many will go on to leadership positions across the business world. At Rice Business, that network can also translate into tangible career moves: More than 70% of Full-Time MBA students accept positions through the Rice Business community. 

And the relationships don’t end at graduation. As a Rice Business alum, you’ll join a network of more than 10,000 Rice Business alumni who can offer professional connections, industry knowledge and support throughout your career.

For working professionals pursuing a part-time MBA, the opportunity to connect with peers from different programs, backgrounds and experience levels can be especially valuable — which is something you won’t find at most satellite schools. Those relationships can broaden your perspective and introduce you to people working across industries. 

If you’re wondering how to balance a full-time career with graduate school, read our tips for managing work and a part-time MBA.

The cohort experience fosters camaraderie, collaboration and a sense of community that extends far beyond the classroom. These friendships enrich the MBA experience and serve as a valuable support network throughout your career journey.

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Education Beyond the Classroom

An in-person MBA experience extends beyond classes and career preparation. Student organizations, campus events and shared traditions give you opportunities to develop leadership skills, explore interests and become part of a community.

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At Rice Business, students can join a variety of clubs, including professional associations, student government organizations, affinity groups and social clubs such as the Rice Business Women’s Organization and the Cork & Cask Club.

These organizations give students opportunities to put classroom concepts into practice. Members take on leadership roles, organize programming, manage budgets, coordinate events and work with classmates to bring projects to life. Some activities, including student-led conferences and networking events, also connect students with business leaders and professionals outside the school. 

Participating in campus life also gives you a chance to interact with students beyond your immediate cohort. Those relationships can broaden your perspective, strengthen your sense of community and make the MBA experience more rewarding. 

Access to University Resources

One advantage of pursuing an MBA at Rice Business is becoming part of a larger, vibrant university community. Stepping out of a corporate office environment and onto a university campus, especially one like Rice University’s beautiful, tree-lined campus, brings a distinct kind of transformation — one that enables you to step back, shift your perspective, and think differently.

Rice University brings together researchers, students and professionals across disciplines, creating opportunities to encounter new ideas and engage with industries that are particularly important to Houston, including energy, technology and healthcare. Students can take full advantage of university resources beyond the business school, including state-of-the-art research libraries, campus dining and a full calendar of lectures, cultural events and other activities.
 

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At Rice Business, the addition of Virani Hall has further expanded the spaces available for students to study, collaborate and connect. The building includes Audrey’s Cafe and a dining hall, making it easier to meet classmates over coffee, grab a meal between classes or find a place to work on a group project. (Explore Virani Hall in person or continue reading about how it enhances student life.)

Having these resources at hand makes campus life more convenient while giving students meaningful ways to step away from the daily grind and engage with the broader university community.

Experience Rice Business for Yourself

Choosing an MBA format is ultimately a decision about how you want to learn, work and build relationships during graduate school. Online programs offer flexibility, particularly for students balancing demanding professional and personal commitments. An on-campus experience, meanwhile, gives you regular opportunities for face-to-face collaboration, direct career support and deeper involvement in a professional community. 

The best way to understand what that experience looks like is to see it for yourself. Join us for an upcoming admissions event to explore the Rice Business campus, meet members of the community and learn more about our MBA programs. You can also connect with a Rice Business recruiter to discuss which format is right for you.


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Q&A With Ben Lansford, Director of the Rice MAcc Program

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Meet Ben Lansford, director of the Master of Accounting program, and hear what brought him to Rice, why a MAcc is a strong fit for students of all backgrounds, and how the program offers unmatched career growth.

Rice Business is known for many things — rigorous academic programs, world-class faculty, global rankings and a vibrant campus environment. But what truly sets us apart is our close-knit community, where exceptional faculty know students by name, take a genuine interest in their success and are deeply invested in their growth.

Meet Ben Lansford, director of the Master of Accounting program and professor in the practice of accounting. Since 2014, he has overseen the Rice MAcc program, mentoring students, facilitating employer relations and cultivating a tight-knit community.

Lansford discusses what brought him to Rice, why a MAcc is a strong fit for students of all backgrounds, and how the Rice Business program offers unmatched career opportunities.

About You

1. Tell us about your background and what brought you to Rice.

I wasn’t an accounting major in college. I discovered accounting later and became interested in the way it helps you understand how businesses work. That interest ultimately led me to earn a Ph.D. in accounting and pursue an academic career.

From 2010 to 2014, I directed Penn State University’s Master of Accounting program. In 2014, I joined Rice to help Professor K. Ramesh launch the university’s Master of Accounting program, and I’ve served as its director ever since. Having helped build the program from the ground up, I take particular pride in what it’s become.

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2. What do you enjoy most about teaching accounting, and how has teaching influenced your approach to leading the MAcc program?

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I often tell students that accounting is the language of business. If you understand the language, you don’t have to depend on someone else to translate what a company’s financial statements or business decisions are telling you.

That’s what I enjoy most about teaching accounting. Whether I’m teaching undergraduate, MBA or MAcc students, I can give them knowledge that helps them better understand businesses. I also try to connect what we’re learning to real companies and current events so students can see why the material matters.

That carries over to how I think about the MAcc program. We want our students to develop strong technical accounting knowledge, but that’s only part of what they need. They also need to be able to analyze unfamiliar problems, determine what information matters, exercise sound judgment and explain their conclusions clearly.

The MAcc Experience

3. For those who are unfamiliar with the MAcc, how would you explain what it is and what it can do for a student’s career?

The Rice MAcc is a 10-month professional graduate program that prepares students to begin an accounting-based career.

Students develop a strong understanding of the major areas of accounting, including financial accounting, tax, auditing and managerial accounting, along with related areas, such as business law and finance. They also gain experience using data analytics, technology and AI in an accounting setting.

Just as importantly, the program develops the professional skills students need when they enter the workforce. Our students graduate prepared to sit for the CPA exam and ready to begin their careers with skills they can use immediately. 

4. Who should consider pursuing a Master of Accounting?

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There’s a stereotype that accounting is mostly about working with numbers by yourself. In reality, successful accountants spend a large part of their day working with clients, colleagues, executives and other professionals. You need to be comfortable with numbers, but you also need to communicate clearly and work well with other people.

So, I think the program is a good fit for someone who’s curious about how businesses work, likes solving problems, and values both analytical work and interaction with people. The program gives students immediate opportunities for success but also sets them up for long-term opportunities later in their careers.

5. Do you need an accounting background to pursue a Rice MAcc?

One of the hallmarks of the Rice MAcc is that we welcome students from all undergraduate majors, including those who didn’t study business or accounting.

For students who majored in accounting, the Rice MAcc builds on that foundation with greater technical depth. It also places more emphasis on critical thinking, professional judgment, communication, technology and other business skills.

Students who didn’t major in accounting complete prerequisite courses before beginning the program. Once they enter the MAcc, everyone moves through the curriculum together. By graduation, our goal is for every student, regardless of undergraduate major, to be prepared for the CPA exam and for an accounting-based career.

6. How is the curriculum designed to prepare students for the changing accounting profession, including technology, data and AI?

Technology is infused throughout the Rice MAcc curriculum.

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We have courses in information systems, data analytics and AI for professional accountants that directly teach students how to use technology and AI in an accounting context. Students also use these tools in other courses throughout the program.

Our focus isn’t simply on teaching students how to use AI to complete work more efficiently. We also emphasize that accountants need enough technical knowledge and professional judgment to evaluate the output.

AI can make an accountant more productive, but it doesn’t eliminate the need to understand accounting. In many ways, it makes that understanding even more important because someone still has to know whether the answer makes sense.

Why Rice?

7. What makes the Rice MAcc different from other Master of Accounting programs?

One thing that sets the Rice MAcc apart is its intentionally small size. A typical cohort has about 30 to 40 students.

Students take the same core courses together, work together frequently on group projects and participate in activities outside the classroom. That creates a strong sense of community. Students get to know one another well, and the faculty get to know the students well, too. 

Another distinguishing feature is the fact that we welcome students from all undergraduate majors. Every year, we have students from a wide range of academic backgrounds. We’ve even had students who majored in areas as far removed from accounting as music performance.

8. How does being part of Rice Business and the Houston business community shape the student experience?

Rice Business has a cooperative, tight-knit environment, and that carries over to the MAcc program.

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The program is challenging and moves quickly, but our students tend to be very supportive of one another. They study together, work together on projects, help each other with recruiting and form relationships that continue after they graduate.

Being in Houston connects Rice MAcc students to a large and diverse business community with opportunities in public accounting, energy, healthcare, professional services, technology and many other industries. Our location gives students access to a wide range of employers and professionals while they’re still in the program.

In addition, Houston is simply a great place to live. It’s a growing, vibrant city with an excellent food scene.

9. What do you think students gain from the Rice MAcc that they might not get from an undergraduate accounting degree alone?

For students with an undergraduate accounting degree, the MAcc offers greater technical depth, but I think the bigger difference is the transition from learning accounting primarily as an academic subject to learning how to operate as an accounting professional. For those who studied other subjects, the program provides a pathway into a career they may not have considered when they began college.

In both cases, the goal is to prepare students for the realities of working in accounting. While the CPA exam is an important milestone, success in the profession also requires the ability to analyze difficult problems, communicate conclusions, make presentations, exercise professional judgment and work effectively with others. The Rice MAcc gives students opportunities to develop and apply those skills before they enter the workforce.

Careers and Value

10. What career paths do Rice MAcc graduates pursue, and how does the program prepare them for those opportunities?

Most of our graduates begin their careers with public accounting firms, often one of the Big Four, in audit or tax.

I think public accounting is an excellent place to start a business career. You receive a great deal of training, work with talented people, and are exposed to many different companies and business issues early in your career.

Other graduates go into corporate accounting, consulting, finance or related areas. We want students to leave Rice with the technical knowledge, communication skills, judgment and professional confidence they need to succeed in their first job, but also with a foundation that will allow them to move into broader roles later in their careers.

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11. For a student wondering whether a graduate accounting degree is worth the investment, how would you describe the value and return on investment of a Rice MAcc?

I think the value of the MAcc should be considered over an entire career, not just in terms of a student’s first job after graduation.

Earning a CPA license can provide benefits throughout your working life. The CPA exam is difficult, and earning a Master of Accounting degree is an effective way to develop the technical knowledge needed to pass it.

But the Rice MAcc is much more than CPA preparation. Students also develop professional and critical thinking skills that will serve them throughout their careers, and build relationships with classmates, faculty, alumni, and employers that can remain valuable for many years. For someone who wants to build a career in accounting and business, I think that combination provides a strong return on the investment.



If you’re considering a career in public accounting, Rice’s Houston-based Master of Accounting could be the perfect fit for you. Explore program details below or reach out to Professor Lansford today.

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Todd Jones, Rice Executive MBA

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After many years in the mortgage industry, Todd Jones ’23 took a leap into entrepreneurship with a mission shaped by his own experience as a veteran and homeowner. Now the founder and CEO of Salute Mortgage, he’s working to help veterans make the most of their VA loan benefits and make the homebuying process easier for everyone.

In this episode of Owl Have You Know, Todd joins his cousin and co-host Brian Jackson ’21 to reflect on the leadership lessons he learned at West Point, what inspired him to build his own company, and how his Rice Business Executive MBA helped him see new possibilities. He also shares how AI and other emerging technologies could change the homebuying experience, the story behind a landmark $8.75 million VA loan with no down payment, and the personal values that continue to guide him as an entrepreneur.
 

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Episode Transcript

  • [00:00]Brian Jackson: Welcome to Owl Have You Know, a podcast from Rice Business. This episode is part of our Flight Path series, where guests share their career journeys and stories of the Rice connections that got them where they are.

    Today's guest is Todd Jones, a 2023 graduate of the Rice Business Executive MBA program. Todd's career has taken him from serving in the U.S. Army to spending more than 25 years in the mortgage industry, where he's helped shape lending strategies, build businesses, and expand access to home ownership for veterans.

    Now, as the founder of Salute Mortgage, Todd is bringing together his entrepreneurial spirit, commitment to service, and willingness to take on new challenges. Today, we'll talk about the lessons he learned at West Point, his transition from military service to business, what it takes to build a company, and how his experience at Rice helped shape his next chapter.

    Hi, Todd. Thank you so much for joining me on Owl Have You Know.

    [01:00]Todd Jones: Hey, Brian. Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it.

    [01:03]Brian Jackson: Well, I wanted to start really with what I'm going to call the beginning, which is West Point. I feel like when I was at least in high school, the next step was really a traditional college experience. You went, kind of, a different way with the United States Military Academy. What drew you to West Point, and what did you think about when you were signing up at the time?

    [01:23]Todd Jones: Yeah. Wow. Well, West Point, obviously, as the United States Military Academy, has a great track record of developing great leaders and individuals who make an impact in the nation both during service and after service. But truth be told, while I was in high school, I was very focused, not only on grades but on playing football.

    And so, I also wanted to play football at the highest level, a I-A level. I had a history teacher, Mr. Utz, at Stratford High School, and I think anybody who's gone there back in the day knows Mr. Utz. He was incredibly impactful, and he would do the films for all the football practices and games, and in his history classroom, he would put up pictures of all the Stratford graduates who went to any of the academies.

    He'd put up their academy photos in his classroom. So, he was kind of a walking information, draw attention to the academies, and he was very impactful with the football team, to boot. So, I went through a normal recruiting process for football, went to Missouri, Kansas, and SMU, and then I had Army and Navy. Those five schools were recruiting me pretty heavily. It just stuck out to me, and we'd had a good tradition of Stratford Spartans going to the academies. And as I did those visits, it was just… There was just a stark difference in what West Point was compared to everything else.

    And so, the weight of the decision certainly sat on me. You know, you're at 18 years old making a decision to go to a four-year school and then serve five or six years in the military afterwards, it seems like a really long time at that age. But it was a very impressive place. And one of the quotes that stuck out to me was, "The history that we teach is often made by those we taught."

    It was probably the best academic and leadership program I could get into. It came with some weight associated with it, but I also had the opportunity to play football I-A there, and the number of educational opportunities was expansive. The facilities and the support there are amazing. It's definitely a tough experience. But yeah. So, hopefully I answered your question-

    [03:33]Brian Jackson: No, you did.

    [03:34]Todd Jones: ... but those were the things that were going through my mind. It wasn't something I'd wanted to do since I was real little, but it really got shaped in the high school years.

    [03:41]Brian Jackson: Well, it seemed like at 18 you were trying to grow as a leader, which I think is pretty incredible, to be an 18-year-old and go, "Okay, I need to expand that." You have football, you have the military academy. Were there any leadership lessons that you took out of that period that you still, kind of, lean on today?

    [03:58]Todd Jones: Yeah, a lot, for sure. The military academy is a formative leadership experience. But, you know, as a young officer, you have opportunities to lead within the academy with other cadets. You start off as a plebe, and a plebe is, for all intents, a private. They're actually probably treated worse than privates. They are. Plebes are treated worse than privates in the military at West Point. And it's a pretty rigorous setup. But you start by following, and then you have to learn how to follow to be a good leader. And a lot of leaders, people who envision themselves as leaders, don't necessarily understand that point.

    But if you don't know what you're looking for, if you don't know what it looks like to follow correctly, then how can you know as a leader if people are executing on your plans correctly? There needs to be humbleness in that regard. Learn how to follow first, and then learn how to lead. And then ultimately, once you get out of the academy and you're a young officer, you're responsible for people who are way older and way more experienced than you.

    The rank gives you authority, but it doesn't automatically give you respect. Some of the lessons I still hold on to today is you've got to be willing to get in there and be able to do everything that you're asking your folks to do, and they need to be able to know that if it became upon you to do their job, that you could do it.

    That's definitely a leadership lesson that comes out of the military and West Point. Outside of that, its mission is first, but the people are critical and must always be maintained.

    So, you've got to have a clear definition of what your mission is. You need to make sure that the people have been delegated appropriately to accomplish that mission, and that they're in good shape to do so. They have the tools necessary to do so. And then you need to be adaptable, because in the military, you will plan meticulously, and then as soon as the mission starts, everything changes.

    And so, you need to have backup plans and be adaptable and know, generally, that you're going to have to make changes on the fly, and you have to be confident. In those cases, a bad decision executed well is better than the best decision not executed. So, you've just got to, execution is extraordinarily powerful, and those moments you just have to go and execute, and you will have a better outcome than if you... In a time of change or chaos, if you just don't execute on something, you're not going to accomplish anything.

    Not to summarize them all, but those are some of the lessons that I learned in the military that certainly stay with me and shape how I lead in the business world.

    [06:34]Brian Jackson: And I mean, those skills would certainly translate into post-Army life, into civilian life. And when you left the Army, you went... And I know you worked in oil and gas, fintech, but then now you're in the mortgage industry, and you've been working with the top VA lending platforms in the country.

    What's this drive and experience about serving veterans? And I guess, are there opportunities that you're seeing that are different because of your experience in the Army and how you help serve this specific client?

    [07:06]Todd Jones: Yeah, so it all fits together. Well, first of all, I am a veteran, and I have my own experiences to lean on, right? And when I bought my first home, I actually went to a mortgage lender who was my classmate, actually, from West Point. And he was a knowledgeable mortgage loan originator, but like many folks out there, there are a lot of misconceptions about the VA loan program in general.

    In this case, I ended up buying a townhouse in Chicago, and it was a jumbo level, so it was a higher loan amount. And his misconception was that you couldn't do a jumbo loan on VA. And so, the effective outcome of that was I had to put a significantly larger chunk of money down out of my savings to buy the house. And then I was on an adjustable-rate mortgage to have the type of rate that would associate with a payment that was affordable for my budget.

    Great that it got done, but if you can imagine coming out of the military, first job, you know, you're not sitting on a ton of cash. That money that I put down was money that we could've used to decorate the place, et cetera. Had he known the guidelines for the VA loan program, I would've been in a situation where I put much less down, would've had the same interest rate on a 30-year fixed without the interest rate risk, and my wife would've been a lot happier because we would've outfitted the house particularly well. She would've gotten much better furniture in the house.

    So, that was a learning lesson for me, and I realized that it wasn't really unusual that he or anybody else didn't understand the exact guidelines. There are misconceptions all throughout the industry. So, that stuck with me early on.

    I have dabbled in all those spaces, but I have always been in mortgage and real estate. My very first gig was a rotational management training program with Household International, and like 80% of their profits came from their full-service mortgage and lending business.

    So, I moved up into growing roles in different organizations on both independent mortgage banks and banking platforms, and then the fintech thing you're talking about, the role that I had before with Salute was with SoFi, running their home loans business, and that was... What I learned a ton about there, and it really sparked a lot of energy in me, is taking the technology-first culture and matching that with the highly regulated bank culture, and then across multiple product types, but mortgages being one of those.

    That really fascinated me and opened my eyes to how not only could we serve veterans better, but what we could do for the overall transaction. Everybody stays in their lane within homebuying. You've got your realtor, you've got... It's very fragmented. You've got your mortgage, you've got your title insurance, you've got your inspections, and multiple other participants.

    And through technology, I have a vision of putting that transaction management together to make a much smoother process and to really come out with better outcomes for veterans, but also all homebuyers.

    [10:18]Brian Jackson: One thing I wanted to ask, and this is probably more for me, but I guess full disclosure for everyone listening, Todd and I are actually cousins. It's really first cousins once removed. 

    But your dad, Larry, he spent his career in oil and gas exploration, and something I've always thought about is in that industry, in that business, you drill a lot of dry wells, you know, and like, you take a lot of risk. And growing up around that mentality and someone with that drive, like your dad, what did you learn from him, and I guess how has that impacted the way you approach entrepreneurship?

    [10:54]Todd Jones: Man, that's a deep question. First of all, love being part of this family and love that we're cousins. Yeah, my father is probably the most impactful role model in my life for a lot of reasons, and I think your question touches on a piece of it that I didn't really understand until later in life about the risk appetite.

    So, yeah, my father, Larry Jones, also a football player for Nebraska, went into the military. He was a colonel in his ROTC program. He was the president of his fraternity. He went and served in the military right after Korea. Came out, got his master's in geology, and went and worked for some big boys and then decided to start his own company very entrepreneurially.

    And they operated and invested and ultimately consulted over many years. And I recall growing up, and he's a man of great integrity, but very strict. And that's good, too. He was also like our coach all the time growing up in Little League ball.

    But so he made a huge impact as far as just how a young man should conduct himself and that your word should matter. But there was this sense in the house where we would go through, you could tell things had changed from a financial perspective, up and down, on a relatively regular basis.

    I think that it has educated me, or taught me, and did teach me that everybody needs to figure out a way to be happy in their current conditions, right? Like, the current outcome of the next accomplishment that you do should not be what dictates your happiness. You need to figure out a way to find happiness around the things that actually matter, like faith, family, and community.

    So, life goes on outside of the risks that you take and the outcomes of those risks. And he taught me that, because he was disciplined, and we were consistent in how we cared for our family. We were consistent in how we participated in community, and we were consistent in just, kind of, that ethical nature of how we did business or dealt with others, regardless if a well hit or if it was a dry hole, or if it was better economic times or worse economic times. Deep question. Thank you for asking it. I hope I answered it effectively.

    [13:16]Brian Jackson: No, you did. And I mean, I've always had great respect for Uncle Larry, and he's an incredible leader, has always been. But that lesson, too, of smelling the roses while you're trying to achieve all these great things is something I think everyone can try to pause and do.

    Applying that to what you've done, I would say your career was going fine, then all of a sudden you decide to have this entrepreneurial moment and take a big swing and found Salute Mortgage. Why was this the right moment to take the risk to drill the well? And what were you looking to offer that wasn't already out there?

    [13:48]Todd Jones: Great question. I basically spent decades helping other organizations build and grow their businesses, and I learned about myself that I wanted to combine the missions that were important to me, that I deeply cared about, and I wanted to build something myself.

    And I felt like, with my experience across independent lenders and depository bank platforms, that I had a very specific set of knowledge about how this business could be made better. It was just fundamentally time. And it had been something I'd been thinking about for a long time.

    I actually formed Salute Mortgage in the state of Delaware like six years before I actually launched it. And in that timeframe, I had always been a hired gun, and another bank came and presented me a really nice opportunity that directed me back toward it. But in the back of my mind, I knew what I wanted to do at the end of the day.

    But the timing was great in the sense that technology that will ultimately differentiate Salute and the larger real estate ecosystem that we are striving to build became more accessible, more developed, and God's got a plan, I guess.

    I didn't know that certain technologies were going to bust out and make building this ecosystem more of a reality, but I knew that I wanted to do it for myself. And I didn't really go back to school or to Rice because I felt like I needed another credential or to learn something.

    I felt like I needed to learn how to look at things differently and make sure that I wasn't so siloed in my assurance of my knowledge in the industry that I'd been in for 20 years, that I could look at things with a different viewpoint across industries, understand how technologies were changing, that's basically what took me to being an entrepreneur, and something that I'd wanted to do for a long time, and the timing was right.

    [15:51]Brian Jackson: Yeah, so timeline-wise, you did your Executive MBA, and then I think shortly thereafter launched Salute? Going back to business school after 25 years of experience, what were you looking for? 

    [16:04]Todd Jones: Well, first of all, I had great role models around me. I think you had gone to Rice already, and other people that I knew from West Point, et cetera, had gone there and had great experiences and were doing good things in business.

    You know, friends from high school had made their way to Rice and told me about it. So, it was very interesting. The university itself was very interesting to me from a reputation and network perspective. But really, I felt like I needed to make sure I had a broader perspective on business because I had been doing the same industry since I had gotten out of the military.

    Rice had gotten a lot of accolades around entrepreneurship. I knew that I needed a framework for what entrepreneurship was and, kind of, validate that I knew how to put everything together to start up Salute.

    I definitely understood that technologies were changing, and I wanted to be exposed to some of the more emerging technologies, and I felt like an institution like Rice could provide that. And then everybody that I had ever talked to about MBA programs had leaned on the high value, if you will, of the network, right? And I already knew a bunch of people that had graduated from Rice, and so that felt very natural to me.

    So, it was those components, I think, that drove me to go get the MBA.

    [17:23]Brian Jackson: And you talked about technology a few times. I'm curious, are you using agentic AI in how you're developing Salute? You know, is that what popped up and all of a sudden made things a little more, I guess, possible or probable?

    [17:37]Todd Jones: Two technologies, I think, have emerged that are being utilized within Salute and will be utilized more. So, I'm the CEO and founder of Salute. I got into entrepreneurship through acquisition a number of years earlier when a partner of mine and I acquired a company that operates under the name of Homebird, which is a real estate network company.

    And then we are developing a technology called NestGuide AI, which is, kind of, the glue that sets this all off. And so, Salute today… So blockchain and AI are the two technologies that have emerged that are critical to what we're doing today and will be critical in the future moving forward.

    And the AI in particular, from an integrating the entire transaction concept, is most powerful, I have to say. So, we use AI today within Salute in a way that most organizations are probably envisioning it. But the NestGuide AI is a little bit different. So, today, if I have a customer come into our CRM or whatever, we're going to have, just like people have for years, automated communications with them.

    The difference is that we have an AI behind that, that is tailoring the communications with them, and listening to the phone calls that we have with them, reading all the emails and storing all that under each, you know, user, and then helping make recommendations to our loan officers on what the next email, phone call, and/or text should be, and saving them time in how they go about utilizing that.

    That's one way that we use AI today. We use AI in marketing, of course, very effective in that regard. And then, just to dumb it down, Salute takes care of the mortgage. People don't come looking for a mortgage, they want to buy a house, right? So, when you buy a house, there are multiple things that go along with it. Mortgage is just one piece of that.

    So, somebody wants to buy a house, Salute takes care of the mortgage. Homebird makes sure that you get with the right realtor and helps coordinate the transaction with multiple products. Corporate relocation is a good way to think about it, you're going to need to line up multiple services.

    Homebird provides that aspect of it. NestGuide provides an AI intelligence layer that touches multiple parts of that transaction, so that NestGuide can make better recommendations and better-educated product placement for consumers who are going through these purchasing transactions.

    So, that's how we look at the overall opportunity. And we are working with tech-smart investors who understand the opportunities that are there today to bring that all to reality.

    [20:26]Brian Jackson: I imagine you got a whiteboard and you're trying to map out the transaction, and all of a sudden you're like, "Okay, we can put things here, here, here." The first time it all, kind of, worked together and you saw each part get used and a deal optimized, what did that feel like? Like, "Oh, wow," "Here we go. We're onto something.?”

    [20:42]Todd Jones: So, Homebird became a reality of necessity, like most good ideas. So, to really bring it down to its core level, when we understood that these parts, you know, improve the consumer experience and increase conversion and economics for all parties involved, if Salute Mortgage gets a customer that we pre-approve first, right? Distribution customer comes in, and we pre-approve them, and then we just say, "Hey, go out there, work with any realtor that you want, we're here when you want to make an offer."

    There is a 70% chance that that realtor who builds all the trust and maintains all that relationship with the customer while they're showing them homes is going to steer that customer away to a mortgage lender that they like to do business with.

    And so, there's a significant fallout for a consumer-direct mortgage lender. You put in a lot of work, a lot of cost to get people pre-approved, and then the conversion rate is significantly less than what you would like it to be because you're not maintaining that trust and relationship as much as the realtor.

    So, fundamentally, Homebird came around as a solution for that. So, Homebird has a network of 8,200 realtors around the nation, and what they agree to do is update our technology so that we can feed shopping intelligence to the mortgage lender so they can improve their overall communications.

    Things that an MLO would not know, "Hey, we're going to look at a house today." "Hey, we're going to make an offer tomorrow." All these things that an MLO, a mortgage loan originator, just don't have the time to do. They have time to do it, but they have a pipeline of business, so they're not making those calls regularly. The realtor knows it.

    So, that informs the lender's strategy, and then ultimately there's a common business courtesy that if I refer you a buyer, please don't go send it to somebody else. And so, our realtors try to stay true to that concept as well, to that common business courtesy. The net effect for the lender is it doubles the conversion from pre-approval to fund, versus if you don't use it.

    Like, I could talk on this for hours, so I don't want to be too boring, but that was the first time we're like, "Ah, these pieces need to work together." And then it becomes natural that when you have all these other fragmented participants in the transaction, and they're all working on their own systems, and they're all trying to optimize for their piece of the pie, they're still collecting the same information the customer has done before.

    So, instead of the customer having to provide this information seven times, let's figure out how to bring all of this together so the customer has a streamlined, tech-enabled experience that's more efficient for all parties involved, much less headache for the customer, ultimately, a better cost structure for the customer. All other parties involved participate in a higher conversion rate.

    And then so distribution then becomes the key. And today, it's been proven that one of the most looked-at things online is real estate. People love to look at homes online. And so, NestGuide effectively is a real estate platform, a viewing platform, but it's based off of affordability.

    And in the process of demonstrating the affordability, we will gather all the information on the houses that are out there in the market, all the information on the owning households, all the information on the financial opportunities that are available to either the buy side or the sell side, and then ultimately, lifetime customer life value, future opportunities of consumer behavior, both from a credit perspective and from a tracking perspective, to bring all this together to educate the model more with real outcomes from these operating companies, that will make the model provide better affordability recommendations and better product recommendations in the future.

    [24:46]Brian Jackson: That's too close to reality, I feel like. I love to go look at the $10 million houses in River Oaks and dream a little, Todd.

    [24:53]Todd Jones: Absolutely. And NestGuide, unfortunately, would say, "Here, look at the $10 million house, but Brian, you're going to need another six months before you can afford that. And here are the things that we could do."

    [25:05]Brian Jackson: I like that. Wow. So, you've pinpointed key constraints, and how do you convert a looky-loo to a customer? That's incredible. I'm curious, it's been a few years with Salute. Do you have a wall-of-fame moment, a loan that you think of like, "Wow, I can't believe we got it through," and they're in their home, and they're happy?

    [25:25]Todd Jones: I hope you're asking this for a specific reason, because we just closed something that... We've had a couple, but literally Monday we funded an $8.75 million, 0%-down VA loan. And it's hard to validate because I've searched HMDA data, I've talked to investors, but it's likely the largest 0%-down VA loan done ever made.

    And it was a complicated transaction. It's a beautiful property for a veteran who has 100% disability. He's clearly done very well. We were able to get him a very preferable interest rate. It's on a beautiful lake here in Texas. I'm not going to get too specific just to protect, anybody who knows me who's listening to this probably knows who this loan is for.

    And we did it all in about 30 days. And you can imagine the teamwork that had to go together from the Salute team, but also from him and his team, to make sure that the documentation of his assets and income were sufficient. And what's most special about that to me, not only is it a record number, which is always, kind of, fun for a competitive person, but it proves something that I've been trying to communicate through marketing to a lot of people out there, that there are misunderstandings about the VA loan program.

    It's very often treated like an entry-level program, and many times it is, first house at a base, PCSing, which is a military transition to a base. You have an opportunity to use your military housing allowance to actually buy an asset, and we love doing those loans all day long.

    But it's also, you never really outgrow, because you become too successful, the opportunity to look at this product. And the difference for him was 30% down or zero, and so this is several million dollars that this individual was able to do something else with. It gives you freedom to use those funds in a different way. And the interest rate we got him was favorable enough that it made a ton of sense to do so. So, just an absolute home-run deal.

    My team, the MLO on it, Jackie Leach, and Desirae Wiles and Naylam Torres, like, they all did... The team that worked on that file just absolutely crushed it. And his realtor did a great job. Just kudos all the way through. Thanks for asking that question. We just had probably our largest highlight.

    I have another highlight for a Rice grad that we're helping him with a challenging situation in a building single-families-to-rent development, and we're getting him out of his construction loans and putting him into a much more favorable financing situation. That's also a big moment for us as well, too.

    [28:15]Brian Jackson: Well, I love the story. I mean, Todd, I could see it, and our listeners can't see you, but I can see there's a lot of pride, and I think for me, my read was the way you were describing it, too, is you're happy that you were able to put this client, who's 100% disabled, a veteran, into a beautiful home with his family. And I think that's really nice.

    [28:35]Todd Jones: Yeah. Thanks for asking that question, though.

    [28:37]Brian Jackson: Yeah, I'm sure there are a lot of deals that don't always make it to the end, but the ones that do want... Especially that one, it's worth talking about, so I'm happy you got to share the story. When you picture Salute five, 10 years from now, what do you want it to have become? Like, where do you hope it's growing?

    [28:54]Todd Jones: So, Salute is intended to be part of a larger real estate ecosystem. I want to make sure that we continue to stay true to the mission, to educate veterans about the extraordinary benefit that the VA loan program actually is. I want to make sure that the VA core stays central to our mission, but that we are bringing the same passion that we have for excellence in the VA loan program and to serve veterans to serving every one of our borrowers, and having the same passion and expertise in every loan program that's out there.

    But I see Salute being part of a larger real estate ecosystem that is tech-enabled, that will ultimately allow consumers to cut down on the frustration and red tape that goes into buying and/or refinancing, but mostly buying a property, and doing that across not only mortgage, but multiple participants in that transaction.

    The mortgage piece of it is just so important because these transactions can't happen if the money doesn't show up.

    So, Salute is, kind of, the flagpole of this larger real estate ecosystem, and we will expand that into other asset classes as well. Outside of just the purchase transaction vertical, it's going to provide us opportunities, of course, in HELOCs and refinances, but down the road, other asset classes, personal loans, credit cards, auto loans, this ecosystem will grow in that regard.

    [30:27]Brian Jackson: That's great. I'm going to pivot a little bit. There's one pattern that I think even our listeners will have noticed, you know, just like I think it was Mr. Utz and his wall of fame, you tend to try to go for the hard things in life. You've done triathlons, Spartan races, you've climbed Kilimanjaro. What's driving you to choose those challenges?

    [30:48]Todd Jones: Oh, man. That's a really interesting question. I mean, I'll be vulnerable and just give you the real answer. So, you know the makeup of my family. So, I come from a family that, kind of, resembles the Brady Bunch. My father had four children, my mother had four children. They got married, and then they had me. I didn't recognize this until later in life, but there was a tension growing up where, if you can imagine, from my siblings, all half-siblings, but I don't look at them that way, they're my siblings. But each of them, one half had a different mom, and one half had a different dad. So, I felt like I needed to earn my siblings' respect constantly. And I didn't recognize that until much later what that feeling actually was.

    So, the culture of our family is competitive to begin with. All athletes, all athletes across the board, everybody cared about their grades, et cetera. So, it's not a situation where you could just easily impress your siblings. So, I think that that was foundational to what drove me to seek large challenges. And those types of family experiences are formative. And that was it, I wanted to impress my siblings.

    [32:04]Brian Jackson: Well, I think you have. I think they're all very proud of you, Todd. I know I'm proud to be your cousin, so thank you for being vulnerable with me. Looking to the horizon, what's the next challenge? What's the next trophy we get to hang on the wall?

    [32:17]Todd Jones: Yeah, the next challenge is... Well, there are two challenges. I want to use this opportunity. So, like you, Brian, I very much respect what you do to continue to support Rice and to show up and volunteer for the institution. So, we are working on a Rice Business and West Point Entrepreneurs, Veterans & Ventures events on November 11th.

    So, shameless plug, if you are associated with any of the academies, with Rice, any veterans, we're going to be doing a charity poker event and an entrepreneurship combined evening. It's going to be at Hotel ZaZa on November 11th. We're going to open the doors at 4:00. There'll be an open bar, rolled cigars. We're going to have an "AI for Entrepreneurs" panel where Mercury Fund will be there.

    Jordan Speaker, who's in real estate and AI, he's done a great job. Shawn Olds, who's an AI consultant and started BoodleBox, which is an AI company, now works for a private equity firm in that space.

    We're going to have co-founder of Voyager, Matt Kuta, who's the president of Voyager. They're the ones who have the commercial contract for travel to the International Space Station, he's going to be our keynote. We're going to have Patrick Flood if you're interested in acquiring a business or selling a business. He's going to be doing a piece on that.

    Then we're going to kick off the poker, and we're going to have some just really high-quality networking. So, Rice community, please, you know, if you want to celebrate veterans, the two organizations that are going to benefit from the proceeds are Career Gear, which is right here in Houston. They outfit veterans and prepare them for transition into civilian life with interview training and, like, actual suits to wear to their interviews. And then we have Combined Arms, which is a Houston-based, kind of, portal, a foot in technology that provides for 300 vetted military services to fulfill a holistic group of needs that some of our veterans have.

    So, two very worthy missions.

    Outside of that, what's next is combining or thinking significantly about the structure to combine the capabilities of Salute, Homebird, and NestGuide. And we are working with strategic investors who have an interest in vertical AI and some expertise in that space to see how we can grow that larger tech-enabled real estate ecosystem most efficiently.

    That is what is next for me from a business perspective. We've built the operating rails. And how we put that all together to create the larger real estate ecosystem is what the next move is for me.

    [35:01]Brian Jackson: Well, fantastic. Well, I'm excited to hear how it all goes, and hopefully I'll see you on November 11th.

    [35:08]Todd Jones: Brian, I can't thank you enough for giving me the opportunity to be on here. It's great to see you. Thanks for all you do for Rice and Rice Business, and thanks for producing a really interesting series of shows.

    [35:19]Brian Jackson: Well, thank you, Todd. I appreciate it.

    Thanks for listening. This has been Owl Have You Know, a production of Rice Business. You can find more information about our guests, hosts, and announcements on our website, business.rice.edu. Please subscribe and leave a rating wherever you find your favorite podcast. We'd love to hear what you think. The hosts of Owl Have You Know are myself, Brian Jackson, and Maya Pomroy.

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The new Oxford Handbook of Organisational Social Evaluations, co-edited by Rice Business professor Anastasiya Zavyalova, brings together two decades of fast-growing research, along with practitioner insight, into one place for leaders trying to understand and manage how their organizations are perceived.

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Zavyalova explains what intangible corporate value means for reputation strategy

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For much of the 20th century, companies could shape their reputations more deliberately, with more time to respond to emerging issues and greater control over how information reached the public. Traditional media served as gatekeepers, and crises unfolded over days or weeks in newspapers and media broadcasts.

Those days are over. With the rise of social media, artificial intelligence and online polarization, the traditional levers of reputation management have fragmented. Organizations are expected to manage relationships with shareholders, customers, employees, suppliers, the media, regulators and the public more quickly and directly than ever. At the same time, intangible assets like patents, trademarks, copyrights, branding, software, proprietary data, customer relationships, trade secrets and goodwill have risen in value, now accounting for over 90% of the market value of S&P 500 companies, up from 17% in 1975.

Rice Business professor Anastasiya Zavyalova studies how these forces are shaping “organizational social evaluations” — the collective judgments that audiences form about a company — into a core strategic concern. She recently co-edited the new Oxford Handbook of Organisational Social Evaluations, a 720-page volume that brings together cross-disciplinary research and practitioner experience and provides critical insight for business managers and executives.

Congratulations on the release of the new Oxford Handbook. Can you tell us about it?

The project came out of conversations at the University of Oxford’s Centre for Corporate Reputation, where I’m an international fellow. It brings together scholars from different disciplines, but the center also invites practitioners. We meet once a year for a reputation symposium.

At one of those meetings, we were talking about research on what we now call social evaluations of organizations. Really, what that means is: How do people form judgments about companies and organizations? How do companies build relationships with stakeholders? How do they manage the way stakeholders think about them, especially in the age of social media and AI?

In the 1970s, top companies’ market value came from tangible assets: factories, equipment, machinery — everything you physically owned. But in the past 25 years or so, company valuation has become increasingly intangible, including just the public’s belief in the company’s future earnings. What do investors think? What do shareholders believe they will get out of this company? Can you deliver on the promise? A big part of that is reputation, or what people believe about your organization and your leadership.

You can see it in acquisitions, because that is one of the rare moments when someone actually puts a dollar amount on what they believe a company is worth. When Facebook bought WhatsApp for $19 billion, for example, most of the purchase price was goodwill. It wasn’t the servers or the physical things they owned. It was, essentially, belief that the company would provide value in the future. From a practitioner perspective, that is why this area is important. Do stakeholders trust your company to deliver value?

We realized that this research has just skyrocketed. The research has proliferated over the last two decades, but there was not one go-to source. The ambition of the book was to put scholarly and practitioner minds together in one place.

It sounds like the speed of our communications is one of the primary challenges leaders face today.

Years ago, companies had more breathing room. In the 1980s when an oil spill happened, company leadership had time to figure out a communications strategy and what they were going to say. Now, if a major oil spill happens, the news can spread all over the world in a matter of seconds. As a leader, you have to be ready to deliver your message.

Companies that want to be prepared have strategies in place for different scenarios. Some have what they call war rooms. They practice: If this happens, what is the message? For a large company, inevitably something will happen, so you need to be ready.

But this is where the fundamentals still matter. If you actually do what you do well, you can withstand a crisis that is brewing on social media. Your underlying business should be strong. And you have to be consistent, both across stakeholders and over time. You cannot communicate one thing to employees and something else to the public because the internal message can also become public. If you are consistent, you can build a strong reputation, and that becomes a safety net when a crisis hits.

Social media seems to make company scandals easier to learn about but somehow also easier to forget about. Is that the case?

I think social media and now AI have contributed to two countervailing forces. On one hand, news cycles have sped up so much that when something new happens, we often forget what happened only a week or so ago. Very few stories keep going in the media for long.

On the other hand, digital technology has preserved an archive of everything companies have said or done. When a company does something today, it’s easy to go back and hold it accountable for actions in the past. Even if you erase something from your website, someone may have taken a screenshot. The digital history of each company is now preserved forever.

That makes social evaluations more challenging to manage, because you can be held accountable for past deeds even as information about a new crisis is spreading almost instantly.

If stakeholder perceptions are that impactful, doesn’t that encourage companies to focus on looking good instead of actually performing well?

Some companies do that, but I think that strategy will backfire, and quite quickly, especially in the era of social media. It’s more and more costly to be inauthentic. Employees will sense it right away. They are often the first stakeholders who know that what you are saying diverges completely from what you are actually doing.

Eventually, that gap can backfire publicly. Employees can leak information confidentially or anonymously. Then investors may start asking: Is turnover going to increase? Are the most valuable employees going to competitors? It all trickles down. Enron was a great example of this.

In some of the research, we refer to this as the reputation-identity gap. Identity is who you truly are. Reputation is what others believe you are. The larger the gap, the more troubling it is, the more like a house of cards your company becomes. If the goal is sustainable competitive advantage, you want your words to match your actions.

One way to close that gap is to make fewer rosy public declarations. Another, and I think the one many leaders aspire to, is to make the internal workings of the company as good as what they publicly declare them to be. That is more sustainable.

Does polarization make that harder to do? How should a company think about taking public positions when it knows it cannot please everyone?

You can see evidence of how much more polarized the United States has become in polling on where Democrats and Republicans stand on different issues. If you look back to the 1990s, the means of those distributions were much closer together. Now they are much farther apart. On many issues, the two sides have become much more divided.

I think there are two views on this question, and there is no right or wrong answer. Ultimately, each CEO or manager decides what feels right.

One view is: These are my values. I am going to stand by them. If I lose customers or investors, so be it. Patagonia is a good example. Chick-fil-A is another. You know an issue will be polarizing, but you are willing to have a smaller group of loyal followers.

The other view is: I am not going to take stances. I am going to make a product and run a good company. In recent years, I have had students say, why would I care what the company thinks about every social issue? I want a paycheck, a good salary, a stable work environment and decent co-workers.

I think some leaders are being prudent and deciding not to take stances regardless of their personal beliefs. But it is a conundrum. On one hand, you want to please more polarized stakeholders. On the other hand, you want as many customers and investors as possible. That is the landscape companies are in.

Where does AI fit into this now? Is it changing reputation management or mostly accelerating what was already happening?

I think everyone is still figuring this out. If we stay in the realm of social perceptions about companies, what AI has enabled is the production of content, lots of information about companies. What matters is that some of that information could be fake, and it can be produced very quickly.

People attend to emotional messages about companies and organizations they care about. So fake emotional content can spread very quickly online. You can be damaged for things you have not done. AI has also enabled deepfakes, where a company leader can appear to say something they never said. From a reputation management perspective, that fake information can have true, tangible consequences.

And it is not difficult to imagine how it spreads. You can tweak the emotionality, insert an issue you already know is polarizing and make it sound plausible. Just plausible enough.

Like any technology, there are pros and cons, and it can be used by bad actors. But in another forthcoming article, my co-authors and I argue that AI can be a very useful technology, but it has to co-evolve with human input. If we step in now and have a strong hand in how the technology is used, I think it could have more benefits than costs to society. But that is a big if.

This interview originally appeared in Rice Business Wisdom and was lightly edited for Rice News.

 

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Full-Time MBA vs Part-Time MBA: Which Path Is Right for You?

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Deciding between a full-time or part-time MBA? Compare program lengths, career impacts, costs and ROI to find the perfect fit for your life and goals.

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  • Full-time MBA programs can facilitate significant career pivots through intensive immersion and networking, while part-time programs support upward mobility within your current industry. 
  • You should select a full-time program if you want an accelerated timeline, or choose a part-time format to maintain your salary and job continuity. 
  • Financial planning involves balancing the opportunity cost of leaving the workforce against the benefits of continued income or employer sponsorship. 
  • Both MBA formats offer identical long-term alumni benefits and career returns, so your choice depends on your personal financial and professional circumstances.

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What’s the Difference Between a Full-Time and Part-Time MBA? 

Choosing between a full-time and a part-time MBA depends on your career goals, finances and lifestyle.

A traditional full-time MBA demands complete academic immersion. You leave the workforce for roughly two years, attend classes during the day and dedicate your evenings to study groups, networking events and career recruitment preparation. 

Part-time MBA formats, including Rice’s Professional MBAs, prioritize flexibility. These programs deliver the same curriculum through evening, weekend or hybrid schedules, which often benefits working professionals. Continuing your current employment, you’ll maintain your salary while attending classes outside of standard business hours — allowing you to integrate classroom theories directly into your role. 

Here are a few differences you’ll find across these MBA formats.

 Full-Time MBAPart-TIme MBA
EmploymentStudents leave the workforceStudents continue working full-time
ScheduleDaytime classes, Mon-ThursEvening, weekend or hybrid models
Work ExperienceAverages 3 -5 yearsAverages 5 - 10 years
Cohort MakeupProfessionals earlier in their careerMid-career professionals
Primary GoalSignificant career pivot or accelerationUpward mobility within current field


The typical duration of either a full-time or part-time MBA is about two years. In some cases, part-time MBA programs enable students to take longer to complete the MBA to accommodate work schedules. However, at Rice Business, both the Full-Time and Professional MBA programs take 22 months to complete. Review the Rice Full-Time MBA and Rice Professional MBA program pages for more information. 

What Are the Key Benefits of a Part-Time MBA? 

Many working professionals hesitate to pause their careers just as they begin building serious momentum — but a flexible business degree offers a practical solution. The benefits of a part-time MBA go far beyond convenience, and can offer a new edge to your everyday performance and long-term growth, such as: 

  • Immediate Professional Application: Apply new frameworks from your lectures at your office the next day — demonstrating immediate value to your employer. 
  • Continuous Financial Stability: Keeping your job means you continue earning a salary and avoid the opportunity cost associated with leaving the workforce for two years. 
  • Employer Sponsorship Opportunities: Many employers offer tuition reimbursement programs for employees who pursue advanced degrees while working. Learn how to ask for employer sponsorship for your MBA. 
  • Uninterrupted Career Progression: Continue building your resume and work experience, which may help you to compete for internal promotions even before you finish the degree. 

Why Choose a Full-Time MBA Program? 

Stepping away from daily professional obligations allows you to dedicate yourself entirely to transformation, networking and rigorous academics. Below are a few core full-time MBA advantages. 

  • Summer Internships: Full-time MBA programs largely include internships over the summer, along with the support to find and complete one. If you want to leverage an MBA to pivot into industries like product management or investment banking, a summer internship with top employers is a bridge to prove your capability in a new industry.* 
  • Immersive Experiences: Without a demanding full-time job, you have the bandwidth to lead student organizations, participate in case competitions, and engage deeply with visiting executives, alumni and employers. 
  • Dedicated On-Campus Recruiting: Full-time programs may offer more time for structured recruitment opportunities. Rice’s Career Development Office connects MBAs with top employers at consulting firms, investment banks, tech companies and more. 

*The internship is a requirement in our Full-Time MBA program. Internships aren’t required in our Professional MBA programs (Evening, Weekend and Hybrid), since students work full-time and many advance without one. That said, Rice is one of the few programs that allows Professional MBA students the opportunity to pursue an internship if they choose. Our Career Development Office supports your goals either way, so speak with Admissions to navigate schedule trade-offs and to find the right format for you.

With MBA programs designed around your goals, needs and expectations, we’re here to help you find your ideal path. Join us on campus or online to explore whether a full-time, part-time or executive MBA is the right fit for you.

Jessica Steptoe

Assistant Dean of Recruiting and Admissions

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Understanding Costs and Financial Obligations 

When evaluating your MBA options, it is essential to consider the financial investment required for each pathway. Pursuing a graduate business degree represents a significant commitment, and understanding the total program costs helps you plan your journey. For example, review costs and financial information for some Rice MBA programs.
 

ProgramTuition (Class of 2028)
Full-Time MBA$79,116 per academic year
Professional MBA (Evening)$67,431 per academic year
Professional MBA (Weekend)$70,707 per academic year
Professional (Hybrid)$70,916 per academic year

 

Hear finance professor James Weston explain why an MBA from Rice is a strong investment: 
 

Fortunately, several financial resources can help ease these costs. For part-time students, leveraging employer tuition sponsorship is a highly effective way to reduce out-of-pocket expenses. Full-time students, on the other hand, benefit from robust access to financial aid and scholarships, with 96% of Rice Full-Time students receiving scholarship support to help fund their education. 

How Do Career Outcomes and ROI Compare? 

Both a full-time and a part-time MBA offer a great financial payoff in the long run, but what your career looks like right after graduation will vary depending on what you choose. 

If you want to make a total career switch, a full-time program may be your best fit. Pivoting often requires dedicated time, hands-on internship experience and direct access to campus recruiters. Though you’ll be stepping away from consistent pay, the Full-Time MBA at Rice often pays off with a significant salary increase, especially in fields like consulting or finance. 

On the other hand, if you’re looking to climb the ladder in your current field, a part-time format can help maximize your ROI. Many working professionals use their new skills to land promotions, negotiate a raise or jump to a better role at a competing company while still completing the MBA. 

Ultimately, the true value of an MBA grows over time, no matter how you take your classes. Graduates from both tracks get the exact same access to Rice’s tight-knit alumni network. That means you’ll have a lifelong community for mentorship, partnership opportunities and career growth long after you finish your degree. 

How To Decide Which Program Fits Your Goals 

Making your final business school decision requires a thorough self-assessment. Review the following part time vs full time mba factors to determine your ideal format. 

  • Evaluate your transition timeline: Do you need to change industries immediately, or are you looking to steadily climb the corporate ladder within your current field? 
  • Assess your financial risk tolerance: Can you sustain your lifestyle for two years without a salary, or do you need continuous income to meet family and personal needs? 
  • Review your professional tenure: Do you have the typical 3-5 years of experience suited for a full-time cohort, or does your extensive background align better with more established part-time peers? 
  • Analyze your geographic flexibility: Are you willing to relocate to a new city for an immersive two-year program, or do you need a local part-time program near your current residence? 
  • Determine your daily capacity: Do you possess the discipline to balance 40 hours of corporate work with 15 to 20 hours of rigorous weekly academic study? Read our guide for balancing full-time work with a part-time MBA. 

Next Steps: Researching Schools and Job Outcomes 

The best way to decide is to look past the marketing materials and talk to people actually in the programs. Reach out to current students or alumni from the programs you’re interested in for an honest look at what the day-to-day is really like. Connect with a Rice Business student ambassador to learn about our community and programs. 

Also, take a close look at the official employment reports for any school you’re considering. These reports give you a clear picture of what graduates achieve. You can use them to verify potential job outcomes, and you’ll find helpful data on average starting salaries and the industries that are currently hiring. 

Finally, map out your own timeline and look at your finances. When you know your career stage and financial situation match up with what a program offers, you’ll feel much more confident in your decision. Continue reading about how to fund a part-time MBA. 


Whether you choose a Full-Time MBA or an evening, hybrid or weekend program, you’ll get a transformative education that prepares you for what’s next. The best choice depends on your schedule, budget and career goals. 

Ready to find your MBA? Take our quiz and explore Rice MBA admissions today.


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Customer Satisfaction Predicts More About Company Performance Than Any Other Known Measure

Research links customer satisfaction to 12 measures of company performance, including customer metrics, accounting measures and stock market outcomes.
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Research links customer satisfaction to 12 measures of company performance, including customer metrics, accounting measures and stock market outcomes.

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Based on research by Vikas Mittal (Rice Business), Sonam Singh (University of South Florida) and Ashwin Malshe (UT – San Antonio)

Key takeaways:

  • Among all known measures — brand equity, net promoter, customer experience, service quality or referrals — customer satisfaction is the only known metric that predicts 12 different outcomes.
  • Many CEOs have consistently grown sales, margins and stock price by improving customer satisfaction. 
  • Executives should systematically measure customer satisfaction to identify strategy drivers and create their strategic plan. 

 

When the president and CEO of Houston-based ITI Manufacturing dug into the factors driving customer value at his company, he found neither cutting prices nor refining his sales process — the approaches his marketing team and brand advisor advocated — made a real impact. Tracing back to specific attributes in each strategic area showed that providing weekly customer updates and resolving issues to customers’ satisfaction had the highest lift in customer satisfaction.

CEO Joshua Robinson, Rice MBA ’21, fully committed to excelling on those two drivers. Within two quarters, all of ITI’s customers got weekly updates and every issue was completely resolved with fidelity. The results: Four years later, ITI’s stock had climbed by 115%, three times faster than the S&P 500, after tracking virtually parallel with the index in years prior.

ITI’s success story is not an isolated one. A new paper co-authored by Rice Business Professor Vikas Mittal, “Customer satisfaction: A multi-level framework,” shows the power of customer satisfaction at scale. In a study of more than 285 million ratings across 1,126 brands, researchers link customer satisfaction to 12 financial and non-financial outcomes, including sales, profit margin, purchase intent, cash flow and stock returns. 

“Many of today’s CEOs and senior executives are using gut feelings, intuition and intuitive leaps to come up with their business strategy,” Mittal says. “Their strategy may be the latest industry trend, or what a competitor is doing, or what they learned from a conference or AI. But that leads to strategy clutter. Focusing on customer satisfaction is a way to directly link science-driven strategy to customer outcomes, and a way to prioritize. It tells you what actually matters for strategy and what doesn’t.”

Research evidence: Better returns with happier customers

The authors provide strong evidence for their claim.

First, they summarize three separate research reviews that together cover more than 250 studies on customer satisfaction conducted over the past 50 years. The summary clearly showed that companies with more satisfied customers saw higher customer retention, more positive word of mouth, stronger sales and profit, higher cash flow, lower stock volatility and better stock returns.

Second, they combined customer satisfaction ratings from YouGov January 2007 to June 2023, and firm financial information from Compustat and the Center for Research in Security Prices. 

The data included a sample of 17,001 firm-year-quarter observations based on customer satisfaction scores from more than 285 million ratings across 1,126 brands from 458 publicly listed firms — the most comprehensive and largest set of data on customer satisfaction and its outcomes to date.

They showed the pattern held up. Companies with higher satisfaction had customers who were more likely to recommend them and purchase again. They also had higher sales, larger profit margins, better returns on assets, stronger cash flow, better enterprise value and higher stock returns in addition to less volatile cash flow and stock prices. 

 

Companies with more satisfied customers saw higher customer retention, more positive word of mouth, stronger sales and profit, higher cash flow, lower stock volatility and better stock returns.

 

Applying these findings to iconic companies, they estimated that a one percentage point increase in customer satisfaction would yield an additional $17.8 billion in Apple’s market value and $7.26 billion in additional sales for Walmart.

“There’s only one metric that can predict so many outcomes for an organization,” Mittal says. “Customer satisfaction is the best measure of customer value, and it’s something that more companies should be using as the basis of their strategic planning process.”

A systematic strategy, rooted in science and logic

The lesson for CEOs and other executive leaders is to not base their strategy on guesswork. Instead, organizations should identify the specific levers that matter most for satisfaction, and then invest in excelling on those.

The framework isn’t limited to for-profit companies, Mittal says. It applies to places like schools and non-profits, too. “We recently worked with two small school districts in Greater Houston to apply this framework. Both increased student retention, academic outcomes, and parent engagement. Every organization has customers, and every one of them benefits from maximizing the value it creates for them.” 

Regulators and policymakers have a stake as well. Regulators could use satisfaction trends to weigh the costs and benefits of proposed mergers and help forecast consumer spending as part of broader economic policy. The same data, Mittal argues, could extend even further, to how companies treat their most vulnerable customers, or how responsibly they operate.

But the core argument, he says, centers on the companies themselves. “Customer satisfaction has to be the strategic basis for all companies,” says Mittal. “Sure, try to be innovative, use AI, you may need to do that. But those things themselves can’t be the strategy unless they’re creating value for the customer.”

Written by Deborah Lynn Blumberg

“Customer Satisfaction: A Multi-Level Framework.” Journal of the Academy of Marketing Science (2026).


 

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Rice Business builds on decades of experience in entrepreneurship through acquisition

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The annual Texas ETA Conference, organized by Rice MBA students, recently brought together aspiring entrepreneurs, investors and business leaders to explore the opportunities and challenges of acquiring, operating and growing established businesses.

Student-led Texas Entrepreneurship Through Acquisition conference highlights Rice’s longstanding role in preparing entrepreneurs to acquire, operate and grow established businesses

Entrepreneurship doesn’t always begin with a new idea; it can start with an established business ready for its next chapter and an entrepreneur who sees ways to strengthen it.

That model, known as entrepreneurship through acquisition (ETA), has deep roots at Rice University. Rice began teaching ETA in 1979 with Ed Williams, and Rice Business continues to build on that legacy through academic programming, student organizations, industry partnerships and a growing network of alumni and investors.

The annual Texas ETA Conference, organized by Rice MBA students and hosted by Rice Business, brought together aspiring entrepreneurs, investors, business owners and advisers to discuss the opportunities and challenges of acquiring small businesses. The conference explored the full acquisition journey, from identifying prospective sellers and evaluating companies to structuring deals, securing financing and creating value after a purchase. Its conversations reflected both the growing interest in ETA and the practical knowledge required to make an acquisition successful.

For aspiring entrepreneurs, buying an existing company offers an alternative to starting a business from scratch. Rather than developing a product, finding customers and building operations from the ground up, an acquirer takes over an established enterprise and looks for ways to improve its performance. That may mean expanding sales, professionalizing operations, improving pricing or introducing technology and systems that the company has never had.

Al Danto, senior lecturer in entrepreneurship, spoke about Williams’ class in his opening remarks welcoming the audience to McNair Hall as well as the new Asha and Farid Virani Hall.

“[Williams] said that the greatest opportunity for a Rice MBA was to acquire an unsophisticated business and add sophistication to it,” Danto said. “I don’t think in nearly 50 years that concept has changed.”

Rice’s entrepreneurship ecosystem helps students explore that path before committing to it. Coursework introduces the mechanics of acquisition, while the Rice ETA Club and internship opportunities connect students with practitioners and real-world experiences. The university’s entrepreneurship resources, alumni relationships and investor networks provide additional opportunities to learn from people who have pursued acquisitions themselves.

The conference extended that community, giving participants an opportunity to compare approaches and hear candid perspectives on the realities of searching for and running a company. The conference included a keynote from Robert Graham, a founding partner at SIG Partners, and founder and CEO of Pillar Health Group, as well as panels on navigating a deal, investor perspectives and the next steps after an acquisition. The conference also featured a valuation workshop.
 

“Buying a business is only the beginning,” said Jeff Fleming, interim dean of Rice Business. “Entrepreneurs need to know how to run it, improve it and grow it. By bringing aspiring entrepreneurs together with investors, business owners and advisers, our students have created a forum for practical conversations about what it takes to acquire and lead a company.”

 

One major theme was the increasingly competitive market for acquisitions. Speakers described a field that has expanded significantly as more business schools introduce ETA programming, more searchers enter the market and more investors pursue opportunities. For buyers, that means finding promising companies requires more than monitoring listings or relying on brokers.

Building relationships directly with business owners remains essential. Panelists encouraged searchers to make consistent outreach, follow up thoughtfully and treat the process as a long-term relationship-building effort. Artificial intelligence and other technology can improve research and efficiency, but they do not replace the trust required to persuade an owner to sell a business to a new leader.

Evaluating a company also requires looking beyond its obvious strengths and weaknesses. A business without a formal sales team, a marketing budget or standardized operating procedures may offer substantial opportunities for improvement. At the same time, buyers must understand risks such as dependence on the owner, customer concentration, industry cycles and changing regulations.

The discussion underscored that ETA is not a single formula. Aspiring buyers may pursue traditional search funds, self-funded searches or newer models that combine elements of both. Attendees were encouraged to research the options, speak with entrepreneurs who have taken different paths and identify a strategy suited to their circumstances.

Yet the fundamentals of successful ownership remain consistent: understand the business, identify realistic opportunities to improve it, build strong relationships and prepare for the work of operating a company after the deal closes.

That emphasis on practical experience is central to Rice’s approach. The university’s longstanding engagement with ETA gives students access to a field shaped not only by finance and dealmaking but also by leadership, operational judgment and the responsibility of sustaining businesses and the jobs they support.

 

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